All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP?  
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Kevin Hoffman





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

When will we be able to have an easier-to-install updated CTP of ADO.NET vNext The current one is a September 2006 CTP that requries the May 2006 CTP of LINQ in order to function.

Are there any firm dates as to when LINQ and ADO.NET vNext will either become parallel (release at the same time) or get rolled into the same CTP/Beta



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Lance Olson - MSFT





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

As you mentioned, thus far we've had builds of the ADO.NET vNext CTP that were independent from the other components like the LINQ May CTP. We're now in the process of bringing them together as part of the .NET Framework (code named "Orcas") release and making them available as one Orcas CTP. We expect to have a CTP that contains the next build of the Entity Framework as part of Orcas sometime in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, while this build does have some LINQ to Objects functionality, it does not yet contain the LINQ to Entities portion of the product so you can query using Entity SQL in that build but not LINQ. The combined build that has the Entity Framework plus LINQ support does not yet have a firm public date, but we're actively working on it.

-Lance


 
 
Kevin Hoffman





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

Thats what I'm really looking for... I've got a Virtual Machine using the current Orcas CTP, I've got a VM running .NET 3.0, I've got a real machine using .NET 3.0, and a real machine using the May LINQ CTP and ADO.NET vNext w/LINQ to Entities... I'm wondering when I can consolidate and have a single machine (Virtual or otherwise) that I can use write my data access code (LINQ to Entities)


 
 
Lance Olson - MSFT





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

Yes, we'd like to be able to get you to that happy state of everything in one CTP as soon as possible :-). It just takes a bit longer to get everything integrated into one build as there are a number of dependencies.

BTW: I was being conservative on when the Orcas CTP build would come out that has the Entity Framework so I said sometime during the next few weeks. Actually, it was posted today at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx FamilyId=C09B5A2D-EB6A-44B6-8BBD-3764A2FDA9CE&displaylang=en.

-Lance


 
 
Kevin Hoffman





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

Its a Virtual PC image Why on earth the May and September CTPs were installable and the installs worked (most of the time). Why take a step in the wrong direction and deliver just a VPC

I realize that its probably because there wasn't time to create an install to satisfy the entire environment so that it would work on everyone's machine..but still - 3GB to download, 60 minutes to decompress - its not even portable enough for me to get home from my office without using a USB drive (which I can't plug in at the office)


 
 
Kevin Hoffman





PostPosted: ADO.NET (Pre-release), All-in-one bundle Beta 1 or CTP? Top

Also - the documentation for the October CTP says in one place that it has LINQ to XML, eSQL support, etc.

Further down, it says the CTP does not have any of the "Language Integrated Query CTP" support.

Which is it - can I get LINQ to Entities from this CTP or not I'd rather not download 3GB and soak up massive amounts of space on my drive only to find out that this CTP doesn't have what I want.