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Unique Way to Detect if Cookies are set - opinions?

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I was thinking about an easy to determine if cookies are set or not in ASP. I began

thinking about how the Session ID is dependent upon a cookie - right?



Well, I disabled cookies in Firefox and then loaded a webpage that displayed

Session.SessionID. Viola, I got one! And then, I reloaded the page. And then, I noticed

that the SessionID incremented by one!



This still isn't yet a one-page method of detecting if cookies are enabled or not (like

BrowserHawk does), but are there any possibilities here?



Vic


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Re:Unique Way to Detect if Cookies are set - opinions?



"Victor" <vic@vic.com>wrote in message

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I was thinking about an easy to determine if cookies are set or not in ASP.

I began

thinking about how the Session ID is dependent upon a cookie - right?



Well, I disabled cookies in Firefox and then loaded a webpage that

displayed

Session.SessionID. Viola, I got one! And then, I reloaded the page. And

then, I noticed

that the SessionID incremented by one!



This still isn't yet a one-page method of detecting if cookies are enabled

or not (like

BrowserHawk does), but are there any possibilities here?



classicasp.aspfaq.com/general/how-do-i-detect-enabled-cookies/javascript.html">classicasp.aspfaq.com/general/how-do-i-detect-enabled-cookies/javascript.html



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Re:Unique Way to Detect if Cookies are set - opinions?

Victor wrote on Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:50:53 -0400:



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I was thinking about an easy to determine if cookies are set or not in

ASP. I began thinking about how the Session ID is dependent upon a cookie

- right?



Well, I disabled cookies in Firefox and then loaded a webpage that

displayed Session.SessionID. Viola, I got one! And then, I reloaded the

page. And then, I noticed that the SessionID incremented by one!



This still isn't yet a one-page method of detecting if cookies are enabled

or not (like BrowserHawk does), but are there any possibilities here?



Vic





You can't do it in a one-page method - with ASP, everything is executed

before being sent to the client. How do you know if the page is the first

one being loaded by the browser or not? You could check the referer to see

if it's from another page on your own site, but that won't always be

reliable (referer could be empty due to being removed by an intermediate

proxy for instance).



All the SessionID incrementing tells you is that a new Session ID was

generated because no Session ID cookie was passed into the page. This will

happen when cookies are disabled, or the page is the first one loaded by the

browser on your site, or the application pool has just been recycled and all

Sessions have been cleared, or the previous Session ID cookie has expired.

(the last two examples would however still have Session ID cookies being

sent by the browser, but I seem to remember they can't be read by an ASP

page anyway because IIS removes them from the Cookie header before the ASP

page is processed).



Dan





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Re:Unique Way to Detect if Cookies are set - opinions?

Victor wrote on 23 okt 2006 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:



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This still isn't yet a one-page method of detecting if cookies are

enabled or not (like BrowserHawk does), but are there any

possibilities here?



The session cookie [and other cookies] being set can only be detected

serverside on the second pass of your requested one-page:



<%@ Language=VBScript %>

<% Response.Expires = -100 %>

<%

if session("yes")="yes" then

%>

Session cookie was set

<%

elseif request.form("time")="first" then

%>

Session cookie seems UNsettable

<%

else

session("yes")="yes"

%>

<form>

<input type='hidden' name='time' value='first'>

<input type='submit' value='Press me please.'>

</form>

<%

end if

%>





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