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Hi all,



I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my password.

I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog" the

cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet or a

corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a running

process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe mode

with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

virus scans. Any other suggestions?



thanks,

charles....


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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

Hi Charles--



There are commands to do those things but the particular command you want

when you boot to command with safe mode is the one to run system restore.

That'd be this:



Type the following command at a command prompt, and then press ENTER:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe



Here's what I'd do in this order:



***Startup Repair from the Vista DVD***



How to Use The Vista DVD to Repair Vista (Startup Repair is misnamed by the

Win RE team and it can be used to fix many Vista components even when you

***can boot to Vista):



www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm" >www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm



If you elect to run Startup repair from the Vista DVD (it can fix major

components in Vista--I've verified this many many times; it's good for more

than startup problems, and the Win RE team simply screwed up when they named

it not understanding its full functionality):



Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:



www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png" >www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png



You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is

also sometimes effective):



support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us" >support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us



How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)

www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm" >www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm



It will automatically take you to this on your screen:



www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png" >www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png



That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on

thelower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list

and I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.



The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look

like this:



www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif" >www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif



Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and

let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if it

doesn't, try System Restore from the Recovery Link on the DVD. If these

don't work booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System

Restore from one of the safe modes besides VGA may work. That means you

have the option to try 4 different safe modes to get to system restore, (one

from the Recovery link on the DVD) and sometimes one will work when the

others won't.





You could also try a Repair Install with Vista which is done exactly the

same way as in XP:



***Repair Install Steps*** (can be used for Vista) MVP Doug Knox

www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx" >www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx





***Using the F8 Environment***



***Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)

by starting the PC and tapping F8 once per second when the firmware screen

with the pc manufacturer's name shows a few seconds after restarting***:



The F8 options in Vista are the same as XP, and the link for Safe Mode Boot

options is labled XP by MSFT but they are the same for Vista (they haven't

updated to add Vista to the title as they have with several MSKBs that apply

to both).



Again, pressing F8 repeatedly when you seem the firmware screen may be is a

generic way to launch Windows RE on some OEM Vista computers.



You could also:



Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in order.

1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd

prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good

Configuration





Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't

use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a

choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command

Prompt.



These methods are outlined in



A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista

support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/" >support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/



Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:



www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx" >www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx



System Restore can be run from the Win RE recovery environment from the same

link as Startup Repair, and sometimes it will work from one F8 safe mode

location or from the Win Recovery Environment when it won't work from other

locations.



How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP



support.microsoft.com/default.aspx >support.microsoft.com/default.aspx



Good luck,



CH







"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

Quote
Hi all,



I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my password.

I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

the

cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet or

a

corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a running

process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe mode

with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

virus scans. Any other suggestions?



thanks,

charles....









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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

Have you checked the Event Viewer for clues as to why the system reboots?

How about a System Restore to a point before the problem started?



--

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* NEW! Catch my blog ... msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/" >msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/

* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups

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"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

Quote
Hi all,



I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my password.

I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

the

cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet or

a

corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a running

process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe mode

with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

virus scans. Any other suggestions?



thanks,

charles....









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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

Since that is the point where generally your video driver takes over from

the VGA driver, that would be my first check. Can you also boot into low

resolution mode?





"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

Quote
Hi all,



I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my password.

I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

the

cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet or

a

corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a running

process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe mode

with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

virus scans. Any other suggestions?



thanks,

charles....









-

Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net>wrote in message

Quote
Hi Charles--



There are commands to do those things but the particular command you want

when you boot to command with safe mode is the one to run system restore.

That'd be this:



Type the following command at a command prompt, and then press ENTER:

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe



No restore points set.



Quote
Here's what I'd do in this order:



***Startup Repair from the Vista DVD***



The laptop is a new one from HP. They want you to make your own

recovery cd/dvd's which I didn't do. So I guess I am stuck.



thanks,

charles....



Quote
How to Use The Vista DVD to Repair Vista (Startup Repair is misnamed by

the

Win RE team and it can be used to fix many Vista components even when you

***can boot to Vista):





www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm" >www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm



If you elect to run Startup repair from the Vista DVD (it can fix major

components in Vista--I've verified this many many times; it's good for

more

than startup problems, and the Win RE team simply screwed up when they

named

it not understanding its full functionality):



Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:





www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png" >www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png



You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is

also sometimes effective):



support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us" >support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us



How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)



www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm" >www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm



It will automatically take you to this on your screen:





www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png" >www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png



That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on

thelower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list

and I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.



The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look

like this:





www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif" >www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif



Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and

let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if it

doesn't, try System Restore from the Recovery Link on the DVD. If these

don't work booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System

Restore from one of the safe modes besides VGA may work. That means you

have the option to try 4 different safe modes to get to system restore,

(one

from the Recovery link on the DVD) and sometimes one will work when the

others won't.





You could also try a Repair Install with Vista which is done exactly the

same way as in XP:



***Repair Install Steps*** (can be used for Vista) MVP Doug Knox



www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx" >www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx





***Using the F8 Environment***



***Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)

by starting the PC and tapping F8 once per second when the firmware

screen

with the pc manufacturer's name shows a few seconds after restarting***:



The F8 options in Vista are the same as XP, and the link for Safe Mode

Boot

options is labled XP by MSFT but they are the same for Vista (they haven't

updated to add Vista to the title as they have with several MSKBs that

apply

to both).



Again, pressing F8 repeatedly when you seem the firmware screen may be is

a

generic way to launch Windows RE on some OEM Vista computers.



You could also:



Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in

order.

1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd

prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good

Configuration





Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't

use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you

a

choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command

Prompt.



These methods are outlined in



A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista

support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/" >support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/



Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:



www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx" >www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx



System Restore can be run from the Win RE recovery environment from the

same

link as Startup Repair, and sometimes it will work from one F8 safe mode

location or from the Win Recovery Environment when it won't work from

other

locations.



How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP



support.microsoft.com/default.aspx >support.microsoft.com/default.aspx



Good luck,



CH







"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

news:dFzCi.7793$924.1462@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...

>Hi all,

>

>I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my

password.

>I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

>the

>cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet

or

>a

>corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

>cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

>problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

>command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a

running

>process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe

mode

>with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

>virus scans. Any other suggestions?

>

>thanks,

>charles....

>

>

>







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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com>wrote in message

Quote
Have you checked the Event Viewer for clues as to why the system reboots?

How about a System Restore to a point before the problem started?



The even viewer doesn't give a clue.

There were no restore points set. The default is OFF, I have found.



thanks,

charles.....



Quote
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@gmail.com

* NEW! Catch my blog ... msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/" >msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/

* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups

* The Website - rgharper.mvps.org/" >rgharper.mvps.org/

* HELP us help YOU ... www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm" >www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

news:dFzCi.7793$924.1462@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...

>Hi all,

>

>I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my

password.

>I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

>the

>cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet

or

>a

>corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

>cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

>problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

>command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a

running

>process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe

mode

>with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

>virus scans. Any other suggestions?

>

>thanks,

>charles....

>

>

>







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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>wrote in message

Quote
Since that is the point where generally your video driver takes over from

the VGA driver, that would be my first check. Can you also boot into low

resolution mode?



When I try vga mode I get "an unauthorized change was made to windows"

screen, and the only thing I can do it reboot. The license is legal and

straight

from HP, it is an HP laptop. I guess my only recourse is to copy my emails

off and rebuild the computer from a recovery routine that I hope works. If

that doesn't work I will probably put Linux on it since I did not make the

restore cd's from the hard drive. The cheapskates don't even give you

recovery cd's any more. You have to make your own which I didn't do.

The only choice that works is to boot to safe mode with command prompt.

I think it was an invasion from the Internet since I have done some research

it seems that a lot of people are having similar problems. When I go into

safe mode with the gui I get a continually restarting "windows explorer is

not working and will be restarted" scenario.



later,

charles.....



Quote
"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

news:dFzCi.7793$924.1462@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...

>Hi all,

>

>I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my

password.

>I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to "hog"

>the

>cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet

or

>a

>corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

>cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

>problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

>command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a

running

>process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe

mode

>with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those free

>virus scans. Any other suggestions?

>

>thanks,

>charles....

>

>

>







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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?



"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

Quote
"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com>wrote in message

news:Oxd48NX7HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>Have you checked the Event Viewer for clues as to why the system reboots?

>How about a System Restore to a point before the problem started?



The even viewer doesn't give a clue.

There were no restore points set. The default is OFF, I have found.





That is odd. In my Vista Ultimate installations, the default for System

Restore is on - which has saved my butt on more than one occasion.



Methinks that HP may want you to use your restore disks so that they can

re-install any of their malware and adware that you may have removed.



The lesson is to never buy a laptop without a full Windows disk.

Unfortunately, which may make this impossible for some, it is often only the

higher end laptops that have this option. And the malware/restore disk

issue is the reason I never buy a ready-made desktop. I always build my own

even though it is often more expensive. That way I always have a Windows

disk and start with no malware on my PC.



Dale





Dale



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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

"Dale" <nospam@nospam.ever>wrote in message

Quote


"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

news:9nVCi.7880$924.3851@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...

>"Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com>wrote in message

>news:Oxd48NX7HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>Have you checked the Event Viewer for clues as to why the system

reboots?

>>How about a System Restore to a point before the problem started?

>

>The even viewer doesn't give a clue.

>There were no restore points set. The default is OFF, I have found.

>



That is odd. In my Vista Ultimate installations, the default for System

Restore is on - which has saved my butt on more than one occasion.



Methinks that HP may want you to use your restore disks so that they can

re-install any of their malware and adware that you may have removed.



The lesson is to never buy a laptop without a full Windows disk.

Unfortunately, which may make this impossible for some, it is often only

the

higher end laptops that have this option. And the malware/restore disk

issue is the reason I never buy a ready-made desktop. I always build my

own

even though it is often more expensive. That way I always have a Windows

disk and start with no malware on my PC.



Dale



I am still in research mode as to the email backup problem. Once I can

safely backup/restore my emails I will try the hd based restore process

that hp says should work. We'll see.



If the choice is Vista for $ or Linux for free, I am going with free.



later,

charles....





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Re:Vista Basic justs reboots?

You can buy a restore disk from HP for about $10



"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

Quote
"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>wrote in message

news:uHmeCYX7HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>Since that is the point where generally your video driver takes over from

>the VGA driver, that would be my first check. Can you also boot into low

>resolution mode?



When I try vga mode I get "an unauthorized change was made to windows"

screen, and the only thing I can do it reboot. The license is legal and

straight

from HP, it is an HP laptop. I guess my only recourse is to copy my

emails

off and rebuild the computer from a recovery routine that I hope works.

If

that doesn't work I will probably put Linux on it since I did not make the

restore cd's from the hard drive. The cheapskates don't even give you

recovery cd's any more. You have to make your own which I didn't do.

The only choice that works is to boot to safe mode with command prompt.

I think it was an invasion from the Internet since I have done some

research

it seems that a lot of people are having similar problems. When I go into

safe mode with the gui I get a continually restarting "windows explorer is

not working and will be restarted" scenario.



later,

charles.....



>"***** charles" <me@mine.com>wrote in message

>news:dFzCi.7793$924.1462@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...

>>Hi all,

>>

>>I have a Vista Basic machine that just reboots after I put in my

password.

>>I have been able to go into safe mode but several programs seem to

>>"hog"

>>the

>>cpu time. I am not sure if my problem is an invasion from the Internet

or

>>a

>>corrupted driver or what. I can boot up into command prompt safe mode

>>cleanly but at that point I don't know what to do to determine what the

>>problem is. Is there a command to get task manager to run? Is there a

>>command like kill from the unix world that will absolutely stop a

running

>>process or service? I am hoping that I can get it to boot into safe

mode

>>with networking so I can get it on the Internet and do one of those

>>free

>>virus scans. Any other suggestions?

>>

>>thanks,

>>charles....

>>

>>

>>

>







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