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So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?

Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?


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Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation

from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:

support.microsoft.com/ >support.microsoft.com/



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Carey Frisch

Microsoft MVP

Windows Shell/User



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"Dick Hurtz" wrote:



So its out, but it wont be available on Windows Update for another month?

Unless I want to download 700+ MB? Why isn't in Windows Update right now?



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Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

It was offered to me yesterday, 3/18, via automatic updates, immediately

following a definition update for Windows Defender. Total size of the

download, for my own system, was around 65 megabytes.



I believe I did read, some weeks back, that Windows Update would first

scan your system and not offer the service pack at this point in time,

if it's determined that something is on your system that might be

incompatible with the service pack.

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Strange - My machine updated it all last night from Windows update and the

device screen shows SP1 as installed!!!!!



Have I done something wrong?







"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com>wrote in message

It appeared in my Windows Update this afternoon, and I downloaded and

installed it. Jef



"Dick Hurtz" <cio@microsquish.us>wrote in message

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Cause 1



You are already running Windows Vista SP1.



Nope.



Cause 2



Windows Vista SP1 has not been released for the language of the language

pack that you have installed.



Nope. American English here.



Cause 3



Windows Service Pack Blocker Tool is used to block the delivery of Windows

Vista SP1 from Automatic Updates or from Windows Update.



Don't know what that is, but every other Windows Update installs just fine.



Cause 4



You tried to install Windows Vista SP1, and the installation failed with a

known inconsistency in the file or registry structure.



Nope.



Cause 5



A hardware device driver or device software was problematic when you updated

to Windows Vista SP1.



The Windows Update service can detect the small set of device drivers and

software that falls into this category. The Windows Update service will not

offer Windows Vista SP1 until an update for the hardware device driver or

the device software has been installed.



Vista Business 64 bit. Have no idea what driver or device might be

problematic. It would be nice if they told you! I have no problems with my

system and everything runs fine.



Cause 6



You have installed a prerelease version of Windows Vista SP1, and you must

uninstall the prerelease version, or start with a new installation of

Windows Vista.



Nope.



Cause 7



You used the third-party program vLite to configure the system, and you may

have removed required system components that have to be available for

Windows Vista SP1 to be installed.



Nope.



Cause 8



You see one or more updates for Windows Vista when you run Windows Update.

However, you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed.



Nope.



So why cant I get SP1?







"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgamil.com>wrote in message

"Crispy500" <davidcrisp1@gmail.com>wrote in message

Not at all SP1 is on Windows Update, except on people's machines which have

one of the black listed drivers or other reasons that Carey pointed to.



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Paul Smith,

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"Dick Hurtz" <cio@microsquish.us>wrote in message

That's not entirely correct. It was available to me and many others on

Windows Update yesterday.



First, it's not 700 meg. The full SP file is about -- let's see, I

downloaded it and installed from it, as I find that more reliable than WU --

445 meg. I would suggest downloading it and burning it to CD, and storing

it with your Vista install media.



This took me 15 minutes to download. I don't know how much more time WU

would have taken to download and then install. I've generally found this

tactic saves time in the long run, and if the install fails for any reason,

you don't have to re-download.



Second, it *is* in Windows Update *right now*. But if your system has a

driver that is known to require updating, it won't appear in Windows Update.

If you identify and update the driver(s), it will rapidly appear in Windows

Update.



A number of the problematic drivers are actually identified in the document

you quoted in another post,

support.microsoft.com/ >support.microsoft.com/



I know this because I used that list in that document to update the video

driver on this system that was on that list. Updating it not only brought

SP1 to WU, but it apparently fixed its one blue-screen problem on this

system.



HTH

-pk



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"Dick Hurtz" <cio@microsquish.us>wrote in message



The problem drivers are listed in the link Carey provided.



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Kerry Brown

MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration

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"Dick Hurtz" <cio@microsquish.us>wrote in message

Actually, they *do* tell you. It's further down in the document you've

quoted from.





Probably cause 5. Scroll further down in the document you've clipped this

from, then use a search tool to check for the drivers they list; when you

find them, right-click and choose Properties for the version.



HTH

-pk







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"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null>wrote in message

I searched for every one of them. None are on my system. Doing an update

shouldn't be this hard. There is something wrong with their system.



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And even if the driver was in there, so what? Windows Update says everything

is up to date! How do I update something that Windows says doesn't need

updating?



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You may be missing a "Cause". If you have installed one or more of the

additional language packs available from Windows Ultimate Extras, you won't

be offered the SP1 at this time.

I see that after installing the SP1 on my machine, I am no longer offered

any of the additional language packs with my Ultimate edition.





"Dick Hurtz" <cio@microsquish.us>wrote in message

No, just English. No language packs.



"Gary Mount" <gary_mount@telus.net>wrote in message

"Dick Hurtz" wrote in message



If a newer/updated driver is not yet available, then Vista will report the

current driver on your computer as up to date. Windows Update, however, will

continue to recognize the incompatible driver until it can be replaced with

a newer updated version, when it becomes available. Keep checking for new

drivers for all of your hardware, if you think this is the problem.



If, on the other hand, you have a language pack installed that is not yet

supported, then the next SP1 release for other languages will be available

next month.





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Dick Hurtz wrote:

Dick,

I had the same problem. All updates applied none of the 8 reasons

applied but still no SP1 on windows update. I bit the bullet and

downloaded the entire update (435 meg) and installed it. Everything went

OK. Watch for line wrap. If you have a high speed connection it doesn't

take too awful long.



www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx >www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx



gls858

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gls858 wrote:



Same experience here. All updates applied, and none of the 8 reasons

were applicable, with none of the listed problem drivers on my machine.

After making a Complete PC Backup, I went ahead and installed the big

download yesterday, and everything seems to have gone fine.

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Dick Hurtz wrote:

For me its 700+ MB because I have 64 bit. Maybe I'll devote an hour or two

to it this weekend. It shouldn't be this hard to update the system. SP1 is

important and I cant get it without a lot of work and time. They need to

make this easier. This is the first thing in Vista that has really

aggravated me.



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