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Not wanting to start any flame war or 'tastes better tastes great'

debate, but I am curious as to the advantage(s)(?) of x32 vs x64. I have

tried both and really can't tell the difference when up and running. I

am using the 64 bit drivers for my devices and have NO 64 bit programs.

My machine has an AMD64x2 4800 running 4 gig ram and a 500 gig drive.

When I switched from Vista 32 bit to the 64 I thought I was going to see

dramatic results but no... Have followed the tutorials to adjust as

needed/wanted still not difference. So, unless doing some graphic

intensive or mathematically intensive work utilizing a 64 bit program

when will I and others ever see any advantage to keeping the 64 bit os??

Your thoughts please....





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If you don't have any 64-bit programs, and there are few, then the only

benefit you would have is the future ability to expand ram beyond 4 gig.



"speedracer" <speedracer.375hu2@no-mx.forums.net>wrote in message

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speedracer;668169 Wrote:

- *Enforced Driver Signing* - Improves stability and reliabilit

- *More Memory* - 64 Bit can use more memory, in excess of 16TB. 3

Bit, by it's very nature, is limited to 4GB memory ((2^32) / 1024)

1024 = 4096MB

- *Better Memory Management* - whether you're running x64 or x8

programs on Vista x64, the improved memory management does improv

performance. Some of the older games I have (Diablo II, in particular

runs better on Vista x64 than it ever did on Windows XP.Those, at least, are my favorite enhancements. You can get more detaile

information on the Microsoft websie a

support.microsoft.com/kb/946765/en-u" >support.microsoft.com/kb/946765/en-u



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64-bit computing in theory and practice

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"speedracer" <speedracer.375hu2@no-mx.forums.net>wrote in message

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"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>wrote in message

Which alone is reason enough to use 64 bit. I use multiple VMs every day

(XP, Server 2003, Server 2008) in my development work, and need the RAM.

I'll be going to 8 GB soon. I can't believe I'm saying this, but - 4 GB is

just not enough!



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Personally, I have been using 64-bit since beta XP64 and exclusively 64-bit

since XP64 RTM. If nothing else, the future is 64-bit and using it forces

you to carefully select hardware and software that will have a better chance

of survival into the next generation.



"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob>wrote in message

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"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>wrote in message



John



I would go 64bit too, but there is no OneNote 64bit driver available which

in 32bit version enables me to archive my mail to OneNote. There are no

plans to produce one until the next version of Office..



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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com>wrote in message

I am regretting getting Vista x64 pre-installed on my new Dell laptop as I

have since found out that the built-in fingerprint scanner only works with

32-bit Vista and the Western Digital My Book Premium II external HDD only

works with 32-bit also.



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Unfortunately I haven't seen a fingerprint reader that has 64-bit drivers.

Frustrating that Microsoft doesn't even have them for theirs. I am

wondering why there would be a problem with the HD. Have you tried it on

Vista 32-bit to see if it works? How do you connect it?

Also, you might post over in the microsoft.public.windows.64bit.general

group and see if anyone over there has found a solution or workaround.





"Qu0ll" <Qu0llSixFour@gmail.com>wrote in message

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Mike,



I've just used Send to OneNote for an email in Outlook and it worked fine.

Ultimate x64, Office Ultimate SP1.





"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com>wrote in message

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Jane, not plain ;) 64 bit enabled :-)

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Right now, I see no reason to have a 64Bit OS. Since its inception, there

has been little development of third party software/hardware to justify

having it. By the time there is significant stuff developed, you may be

looking at another version of Windows. It will handle up to 128GB of RAM,

but Crucial only has 8GB of DDR3 available for sale right now at something

like $1300. Virtual machines or anything else does not, IMO, justify that

cost for just home PC usage. The future will not stop at 64Bit.

Gene K

"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com>wrote in message

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Lots are past the need for more than 4 gig of ram. DDR3 is coming down in

price pretty fast. Now only about twice the cost of DDR2, but don't see the

point. As to significant stuff, if you have one program that is developed

that does the job you need done much better and faster, then you have to

make the choice.





"Gene K" <nobody@nowhere.net>wrote in message

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"Gene K" <nobody@nowhere.net>wrote in message

What you see is not what everyone sees. Right now I need all 4 GB RAM -

Vista 32 does not give me that. I could already use more than 4 GB - Vista

32 does not give me that.



It's nice to have options.





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speedracer;668169 Wrote:

Erm..im not sure about this information but a friend of mine told m

that the 64bit OS is less vulnerable to viruses and malware than th

32bit OS. i assume its most probably coz most virus dont run on 64bi

OS. Well thats what i know..and ofcourse for some reason its preffere

by gamers



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Explain "Lots are past the need for more than 4 gig of RAM" (who are

"Lots"). To use it in what manner? Remember that I was talking about the

Home PC user; however, are business users really adopting the 64Bit systems?

That decision ultimately comes down to the equation "benefit obtained versus

the upgrade cost". Another way to put it is "will my profits increase enough

to justify the cost". From all I have seen, apparently the answer for most

is no.

Gene K

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>wrote in message

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It certainly is nice to have options; however, you have to also determine

the upgrade costs and penalties versus your gains. By the word penalties, I

mean things like the fact that a lot of third party software is not yet

programmed to operate in 64Bit systems. Question: what do you do that would

materially benefit from more RAM.

Gene K

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob>wrote in message

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Gene K;669389 Wrote:

I can be counted as being one part of "lots" who require, or even

demand, 4GB ram or more.



It remains true that this requirement mostly only falls to home users

who are currently more likely to perform photo editing archiving, home

movies, gaming, etc. But I use my computer for both entertainment and

work purposes, and often mix the two functions together. My current

computer has only got 4GB memory, but it will soon (towards the end of

April) be upgraded with an additional 4GB. In all honesty, had the

motherboard been capable of more than 8GB, I'd push that to it's limit

too, but I have yet to see a consumer oriented motherboard that supports

more than 8GB memory. And boards that support DDR3 are still too cost

prohibitive at the moment...



So yes, I can confidently say that there is a need in all sectors of

the industry for systems that support more than 4GB memory. If there was

not such a demand, then motherboards that support as much would not

exist.





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