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I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent

fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to

buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the

setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software and

when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I

opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,

I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find

that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know

positively that there were several created during the installation of

various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs

installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of

this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be

contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see

if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any

way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing

can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the dreaded

reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just wait for

the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







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Re:Protecting system restore

Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load the

latest drivers (Vista) from their website?

The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do

with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as you

say), Vista does not destroy restore point.

If the program created so many problems, why blame Vista, ( I presume that

you have read about all the so called problems) and uninstalling Vista is a

backward step because whether we like it or not it will be the operating

system that we will have for the next 5-6 years.

By having Vista now, sorting out the (problems if any), and if we expect

that SP1 will sort everything out, we are most probably expecting to much.

There has not been a OS introduced that has not had problems.

I have had Vista installed now for about 10/11 mths with very few problems,

definately no major ones and with a variety of programs, yes, some programs

are not fully compatible, if I decide I would like a program, I down load

the trial versions and check, and if they do the job & are fully compatible I

eventually buy & install.

By installing Vista now and sorting out any problems, discussing items on

this and other discussion groups, will only improve the OS.

It took XP five yrs to become a good stable OS.



Happy Computing & Goodluck



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"TS Mathews" wrote:



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I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent

fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to

buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the

setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software and

when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I

opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,

I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find

that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know

positively that there were several created during the installation of

various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs

installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of

this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be

contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see

if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any

way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing

can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the dreaded

reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just wait for

the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







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Re:Protecting system restore

"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsmohio@yahoo.ca>wrote in message

Quote
I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent

fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to

buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the

setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software

and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I

opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,

I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find

that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know

positively that there were several created during the installation of

various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs

installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of

this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be

contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see

if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any

way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing

can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the

dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just

wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







I had Vista Restore Points vanishing, and it was caused by my dual boot

setup.



See support.microsoft.com/kb/926185" >support.microsoft.com/kb/926185



Regards

Doug



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"Bob J" <BobJ@discussions.microsoft.com>wrote in message

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Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load

the

latest drivers (Vista) from their website?

The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do

with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as

you

say), Vista does not destroy restore point.



I think you misunderstood my post...I said quite clearly that I believe the

Creative Labs install somehow destroyed my restore points. While I can't

swear that it did as I'm not a programmer and certainly have no way to see

what programs did and didn't do. I simply know there were several restore

points just prior to my inserting the Creative Labs' dvd. After the

installation, they were all gone. Perhaps God did it but, having fiddled

with Vista a time or two and had problems, losing restore points was never

one of them so I certainly wouldn't blame Vista. I asked the question on a

Vista NG as it occurred to me that there may be a way to "lock" or protect

restore points that I had missed. I'd like to know for future reference.



So, to make the as clear as I can, I have no problem with Vista other than

the fact that too many things I use and like don't work well with it so I'll

have to wait a bit before moving totally to it. As I know I can't have

restore points if I dual boot with Vista and XP, my only option was and is

to start over using XP alone.







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Re:Protecting system restore

There are two things that are known to destroy restore points. Dual booting

with XP, certain pre Vista versions of defrag products.



"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsmohio@yahoo.ca>wrote in message

Quote
I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent

fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to

buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the

setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software

and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I

opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,

I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find

that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know

positively that there were several created during the installation of

various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs

installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of

this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be

contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see

if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any

way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing

can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the

dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just

wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







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Re:Protecting system restore

Le Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:10:09 -0700, John Barnes ("John Barnes"

<jbarnes@email.net>) a caressé son clavier pour nous dire ce qui suit:



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There are two things that are known to destroy restore points. Dual

booting with XP, certain pre Vista versions of defrag products.



Di you think it's a normal use of an OS ?



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Could it be because your clock is set incorrectly?





"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsmohio@yahoo.ca>wrote in message

Quote
I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent

fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to

buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the

setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software

and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I

opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,

I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find

that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know

positively that there were several created during the installation of

various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs

installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of

this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be

contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see

if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any

way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing

can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the

dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just

wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







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"The Old Bloke" <le0pard32X@XgmailX.com>wrote in message

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"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsmohio@yahoo.ca>wrote in message

news:46f5b92d$0$26401$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...

>I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

>delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of

>recent fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I

>decided to buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of

>errors on the setup and I had to connect to the net several times for

>updated software and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run

>worth a darn so, as I opened the control panel and realized how much

>software had been installed, I decided to do a system restore to make sure

>I got all of it only to find that there are no system restore points on my

>system!!! As I know positively that there were several created during the

>installation of various software packages, I can only assume that somehow,

>Creative Labs installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to

>the point of this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may

>be contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to

>see if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is

>there any way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort

>of thing can't happen?

>

>Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the

>dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just

>wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)

>

>



I had Vista Restore Points vanishing, and it was caused by my dual boot

setup.



Yes, this is well documented problem, hence my decision to remove Vista and

go back to XP until all (did I REALLY say "all" ?) the software/hardware

world catches up.



I do have to admit that I hadn't taken a serious look at the box before

buying the Creative Labs product...frankly, Vista has now been out so long

that it just didn't occur to me that this product wouldn't be Vista

compatible. As I was led to believe that Zen Vision M (I think that's what

it was called) was a brand new product I think it was natural for me

(stupid, maybe but natural) to think it would be compatible. Fool me

once... ;-)









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please fix your system clock.

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"Bob J" wrote

>Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load

>the>>latest drivers (Vista) from their website?

>The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do

>with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as

>you say), Vista does not destroy restore point.





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TS Mathews wrote:

I think you misunderstood my post...I said quite clearly that I believe the

Creative Labs install somehow destroyed my restore points. While I can't

swear that it did as I'm not a programmer and certainly have no way to see

what programs did and didn't do. I simply know there were several restore

points just prior to my inserting the Creative Labs' dvd. After the

installation, they were all gone. Perhaps God did it but, having fiddled

with Vista a time or two and had problems, losing restore points was never

one of them so I certainly wouldn't blame Vista. I asked the question on a

Vista NG as it occurred to me that there may be a way to "lock" or protect

restore points that I had missed. I'd like to know for future reference.



So, to make the as clear as I can, I have no problem with Vista other than

the fact that too many things I use and like don't work well with it so I'll

have to wait a bit before moving totally to it. As I know I can't have

restore points if I dual boot with Vista and XP, my only option was and is

to start over using XP alone.



Hi TS,



Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is another option.

www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx" >www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx



Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

bertk.mvps.org" >bertk.mvps.org

Member: dts-l.org" >dts-l.org

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The Problem Might Go Away If You Set Your Computer To The Correct Time Zone,

Just FYI.



"TS Mathews" <NOSPAMtsmohio@yahoo.ca>wrote in message

Quote
I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had

delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of

recent fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I

decided to buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of

errors on the setup and I had to connect to the net several times for

updated software and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run

worth a darn so, as I opened the control panel and realized how much

software had been installed, I decided to do a system restore to make sure

I got all of it only to find that there are no system restore points on my

system!!! As I know positively that there were several created during the

installation of various software packages, I can only assume that somehow,

Creative Labs installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to

the point of this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may

be contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to

see if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is

there any way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort

of thing can't happen?



Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the

dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just

wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)







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