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Just a quick question regarding firewalls. I am sensing a lot of dislike

for Symantec products and I was wondering why. I find Symantec firewall to

be pretty good. Care to offfer some insight why I should be leary?



TIA


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Symantec products are bigtime resource hogs... I was using Zone Alarm SS but now I have Vista there

firewall is very good, I use Avast pro along with it.



Paul



btw, I know they are resource hogs because I have removed them from other people's systems. They

seem to come as third party in many preinstalled OSs... my Vista did too... ha-ha, that was gone it

2 sec!



Do a Google search "best firewall" and you will get a lot of information... Comodo is excellent and

free.









"Greg" <gnmocslpaaum@msn.com>wrote in message

Thanks for your feedback....You are indeed correct about resources but that

isn't really an issue in my case. I was more concerned with seucrity

benefits. It appears thight as hell. (Maybe too tight unless tweaked).



Thanks again for your feedback





"Greg" <gnmocslpaaum@msn.com>wrote in message

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"Greg" <gnmocslpaaum@msn.com>wrote in message

TIA,



You can choose to heed the warnings about Norton/Symantec products or

you can choose to ignore them. The choice is yours. Read the articles and

make your own decision.

I preferred the free Comodo firewall, which in my opinion is one of the

best available. I used Comodo with my Vista until January of this year.

However, I was forced to uninstall it due to the continuous problems it

caused with the installation of Windows updates, and to the best of my

knowledge these issues have not yet been addressed by Comodo. I will no

longer recommend that people use Comodo, but then again, I won't trash their

product either. I am now using the Windows firewall embedded in my Vista

Ultimate and in my opinion it is sufficient.

I would stay away from anything ZoneAlarm, Norton/Symantec, McAfee and

TrendMicro. In my opinion they are all bloated applications and incompatible

with Vista. They all cause many more problems than they solve, especially

regarding email and internet connections. Many people will disagree with me

and that is their right. My opinions are based solely on my personal

experience with all these products. They all worked fine with my XP

computers but that was then and this is now.



C.B.





--

It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged

and less fortunate among us.





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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:15:50 -0500, Greg wrote:



Uninstall it using Norton's own uninstall tool

service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039" >service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

and get a refund :)

As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before

proceeding.

Or

www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html" >www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html



If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this:

Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily

www.revouninstaller.com/" >www.revouninstaller.com/

and/or

RegSeeker

www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm" >www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm

RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and

folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and

very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.

Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*;

The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case,

ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by

typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and

remove associated files as well.

Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.

www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt" >www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt



You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in

itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.



"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.

www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html" >www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html



Jesper's Blogs-

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.

msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx" >msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?

blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx



Exploring The Windows Firewall.

www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx" >www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx

"If you try to block outbound connections from a computer thatâ??s already

compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you

ask? The answer: you canâ??t. Outbound protection is security theaterâ??itâ??s a

gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without

doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why

outbound protection didnâ??t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it

doesnâ??t exist in the Windows Vistaâ?¢ firewall."



Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features

articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html" >articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html

"...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration

settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable

and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal

firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with

the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."

Or

Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering

searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html" >searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html

Or

Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).

Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing

activity, controls applications internet access.

sphinx-soft.com/Vista/" >sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:15:50 -0500, Greg wrote:



Uninstall it using Norton's own uninstall tool

service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039" >service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

and get a refund :)

As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before

proceeding.

Or

www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html" >www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html



If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this:

Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily

www.revouninstaller.com/" >www.revouninstaller.com/

and/or

RegSeeker

www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm" >www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm

RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and

folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and

very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.

Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*;

The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case,

ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by

typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and

remove associated files as well.

Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.

www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt" >www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt



You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in

itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.



"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.

www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html" >www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html



Jesper's Blogs-

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.

msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx" >msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?

blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx



Exploring The Windows Firewall.

www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx" >www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx

"If you try to block outbound connections from a computer thatâ??s already

compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you

ask? The answer: you canâ??t. Outbound protection is security theaterâ??itâ??s a

gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without

doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why

outbound protection didnâ??t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it

doesnâ??t exist in the Windows Vistaâ?¢ firewall."



Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features

articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html" >articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html

"...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration

settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable

and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal

firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with

the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."

Or

Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering

searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html" >searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html

Or

Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).

Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing

activity, controls applications internet access.

sphinx-soft.com/Vista/" >sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:15:50 -0500, Greg wrote:



Uninstall it using Norton's own uninstall tool

service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039" >service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039

and get a refund :)

As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before

proceeding.

Or

www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html" >www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html



If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this:

Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily

www.revouninstaller.com/" >www.revouninstaller.com/

and/or

RegSeeker

www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm" >www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm

RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and

folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and

very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.

Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*;

The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case,

ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by

typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and

remove associated files as well.

Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.

www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt" >www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt



You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in

itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.



"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil.

www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html" >www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html



Jesper's Blogs-

At Least This Snake Oil Is Free.

msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx" >msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesper/archive/2007/07/19/at-least-this-snake-oil-is-free.aspx

Windows Firewall: the best new security feature in Vista?

blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx" >blogs.technet.com/jesper_johansson/archive/2006/05/01/426921.aspx



Exploring The Windows Firewall.

www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx" >www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/issues/2007/06/VistaFirewall/default.aspx

"If you try to block outbound connections from a computer thatâ??s already

compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what you

ask? The answer: you canâ??t. Outbound protection is security theaterâ??itâ??s a

gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without

doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why

outbound protection didnâ??t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it

doesnâ??t exist in the Windows Vistaâ?¢ firewall."



Tap into the Vista firewall's advanced configuration features

articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html" >articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10877-6098592.html

"...once you discover the secret of accessing its advanced configuration

settings via the MMC snap-in, you'll find it to be far more configurable

and functional. At last, Windows comes with a sophisticated personal

firewall that can be used to set up outbound rules as well as inbound, with

the ability to customize rules to fit your precise needs."

Or

Configure Vista Firewall to support outbound packet filtering

searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html" >searchwindowssecurity.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid45_gci1247138,00.html

Or

Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).

Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing

activity, controls applications internet access.

sphinx-soft.com/Vista/" >sphinx-soft.com/Vista/

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