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Ok this is making me want to rip my hair out trying to figure out the real

price of this thing... we are trying to make up our 2008 budget... we have

VS 2005 Pro right now... we like the team features in 08... and want to

figure out the price... I've seen everything from $2,500 to $15k... wich

$15k is ridicilous.... anyways... then it has editions in 2005! database,

app analyst, performance.... what ever they where called... then in 2008 the

trial seems to have all these things in one packadge? can someone explain

this to me? Do I have to buy 3 different programs at what ever price each?!

thanks!


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"Smokey Grindel" <nospam@nospam.com>wrote in news:Oqkyx5fNIHA.4740

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Yes. It's really retarded.



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ugh... all I want really is Code analysis / code metrics and the unit

testing... what would I have to get to get those?



"Spam Catcher" <spamhoneypot@rogers.com>wrote in message



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If you are smart you take a MSDN subscription , in that case you have access

to all MS products including the development suits

Another advantage is that as a MSDN subscriber you can already work with VS

2008 as of this moment .



At my company all developers have switched from VS 2005 to 2008 team edition

last week ,every developer at our company has a MSDN premium account ,

also note that even these subscription`s have different prices , it seems

that Resellers sell them much cheaper as at MS direct.



So contact a local reseller and you really can get a bargain we had 3 years

for the price of one year at MS





see these links for price comparisation



www.software-intl.com/">www.software-intl.com/



www.xtras.net/products/msdnpremium/">www.xtras.net/products/msdnpremium/



www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_sw/105-9928148-7492402?url=search-alias%3Dsoftware&field-keywords=visual+studio+premium&x=15&y=19">www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_sw/105-9928148-7492402?url=search-alias%3Dsoftware&field-keywords=visual+studio+premium&x=15&y=19









Michel





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"Michel Posseth [MCP]" <MSDN@posseth.com>wrote in



Technically you're not supposed to be using MSDN products for

production. Using it for development is considered production ;-)



Which level of MSDN do you have to get access to Team System? My MSDN

subscription only offers a trial edition of Team System (have everything

else however).







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Huh? I've never seen team suite licensed on MSDN... heck when you buy team

suite you GET a MSDN subscription... see why I am confused





"Spam Catcher" <spamhoneypot@rogers.com>wrote in message



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AFAIK this is only right for everything that does not belong to the

development suite

MSDN is inclusive visual studio .





I have now a MSDN premium account as it is recently changed by MS from

Universall to the premium version







"Spam Catcher" <spamhoneypot@rogers.com>schreef in bericht



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Spam Catcher



Just to be sure i checked the MSDN website :



MSDN is inclusive the availlable development tools availlable to you that

vary by subscription .



At the company i am currently employed with ( big international company

where everything considerering software licensing is checked and double

checked by external Accountants who do audits once in a while ) every

developer has its own personal login to a MSDN Premium account



As this company is so strict ( especially compared to the company i

previously worked for :-) ) i could not inmagine that they are doing

something that is not legal



see this



msdn2.microsoft.com/nl-nl/subscriptions/aa948864(en-us).aspx">msdn2.microsoft.com/nl-nl/subscriptions/aa948864(en-us).aspx





We have our msdn subscription from a Dutch reseller www.itsp.nl">www.itsp.nl ( as

we are located in the Netherlands ) who could deliver us MSDN inclusive

media for a bargain price also our production software ( client operating

systems , SQL server 2005 ) is bought through a open license structure ,

even the tech guys here have all a Technet subscription .



So my recomendation contact a local Microsoft reseller and ask for there

prices



regards



Michel











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Are you sure you didnt get MSDN premium WITH VS Team suite? you know there

are two models you can subscribe to...



* Team Components / Suite with MSDN Premium

* VS Professional with MSDN Premium (does NOT get MSDN access to team

components according to the site)



"Michel Posseth [MCP]" <MSDN@posseth.com>wrote in message



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Smokey,



Try asking the MSDN online concierge. They are very helpful with

subscription issues.



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