Board index » Visual Studio » responsibilities for $35,000/year?

Visual Studio72
Hi Guys,



Can you please tell me what kinda work you will do if paid $35,000/year?

I feel that I'm underpaid, so checking.



Thanks.


-

Manager of your local Wendy's.



--



KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-

Funny!!

I mean in IT Profession.



"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com>wrote in message



-

i would sit at the help desk and surf porn all day and not answer one call





"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message



-

"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message

Helpdesk or jr. system admin.





-

Personally, I wouldn't get out of bed for that sort of

money (currently earning roughly $60k). I would imagine

that is about entry level for a desktop support

technician.

Thanks for the replies guys!!



<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>wrote in message



-

You must be in a union.





-

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in message

"Would" implies a situation that is currently non-existant. Please change

"would" to "am", and re-conjugate any verbs that may need it. Thank you.



--



KB - MCNGP "Grammer thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-

up yours

lol



"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com>wrote in message



-

i would just sit and my desk and keep posting on

microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcse and, of course, not answer one call.



:-)





"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in



-

for 60K/annum, he also provides extra curicular services of a sexual nature

on top of and over and above his IT responsibilities.



otherwise, he would just be getting $35K/annum.



:-)



"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in news:O06YbNuJEHA.3428

@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl:



-

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in message

eh, fair enough, I guess.



--



KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-

Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in



so then, we all know how much you're making now. Exactly $35,000



--

Neil MCNGP #30

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in message

Please see my post earlier in this thread, at 10:40 AM



--



KB - MCNGP "Wait, that's Neil! thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-

Neil <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com>wrote in



that's canadian too. so it's about 1/2 of what buddy's makin'.



every cert i get keeps reducing my salary by 10%. go figure...?

-

Ugh! I can't ignore this post any more...



Kwyjibo... if I were you, I would accept that pay... do your job the way you

were hired... you can ask your employer for a raise if you feel you deserve

it but don't be surprised if he says no. If you make too much noise and get

fired or you quit, you will be out of a job for a while because the market

sucks... then you will hunt for a job and may end up getting only

$25,000/yr... if you have a job that is paying you that much, you can look

around for higher pay but I would keep my mouth shut while looking... do

your job... get a good reference... gain experience... EARN a pay raise...

the economy is filled with people who are earning a lot less than you and

deserve more and are just waiting for someone like you to step out of that

job so they can earn more money... it is respectable pay... perhaps not as

much as you want but the economy does not allow for greed in the IT field

right now. Employers know that if they have a disgruntled employee, there

are 1000's out there willing to work for your pay and less... so I would be

careful what you wish for... using words like underpaid is not safe... some

may look at that $35000 and wonder what the hell you are thinking... convert

it to CDN funds so I can relate directly... and it works out to about

$47,324/yr... that is more than I make annually and I have a lot of

experience/training/certifications. The market just does not have the room

for greed... you CAN be replace with someone who is willing to take whatever

they can get to supply food for their family.



--

Sue MCNGP #69

Proud member since April 8, 2002

"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message



-

Rowdy Yates <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in



so it's just 10 more certs to pogey



--

Neil MCNGP #30

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

i call it bandwidth regression testing. pffft





"Ken Briscoe" <youcant@sendmespam.com>wrote in message



-

yes, every 3 months, i make exactly 35k US



"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in message



-

i dont call it greed, i call it "you get what you pay for"



"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in message



-

"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in



i said it once and i will say it again.



we are in IT because we love what we do and we like sitting behind a

computer all day long. we are not in IT because of the money. you wanna be

rich, go to school and become a lawyer or a doctor - or just open a

bootcamp.:-(

-

$25k/annum for a paper MCSE that can format floppies all day. not a bad

gig if you can get it.



"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in



-

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in news:#yiupuuJEHA.1096

@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:



....i hate you...



--

Neil MCNGP #30

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in



I believe that location is a factor as well. If you live in NY or TO or

LA you will make more. And pay way more to live there. If you are making

enough to live comforatbly (you eat, you don't get rained on at night and

you aren't barefoot), quitcherbichin' or some schmo will be happy to oust

ya!



--

Neil MCNGP #30

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

Thanks for your reply!!!

Actually, I'm not a greedy person who demands too much.

I have been working here from past 5 months they hired me as a Network Admin

but the work I'm doing is different. They made me sign a stupid contract for

2 years and after I complained abt the pay they did talk abt a raise, but no

sight of it yet.

I'm being patient, they are paying for my certification and I'm trying to

get experience.

but Thanks again for your reply!!



"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in message



-

"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message

I find it quite amusing. The whole "contract renegotiation" thing. Happens a

bit in pro sports, and I laugh every time. If the pay was unacceptable to

you, why on earth did you sign the contract? Be thankful that they didn't

laugh in yuor face when you told them the pay wasn't enough. At least

they're hearing you out and not mocking you. And, if you signed a contract

as "Network Admin", you should be doing network administration. Not

"different" work. You contract is for network administration. Period. Not

mopping the floor or answering phones. Tell them to give you network

administration work.



--



KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-

"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in news:OlAZ$3uJEHA.1944

@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:



alright!! there is gonna be a cool job opening coming up soon.



yes dude, go for the big bucks, please...

-

Thanks Sue. I was getting ready to post myself. I make what he does as

well, but our Network Admin doesn't make much more (i'm just a lowly

analyst).



Be happy with 35K... if you aren't, tell me where you work, I'll apply :)



Brat wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

We've established that. Ignore him, he might go away.



What do you DO for that kinda money? I need to get involved in some of that!



Neil wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

well, if he is making exactly 35K at exactly 3 month intervals, then he

must be getting quarterly cheques from the govement for extreme disability.







Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in



-

Unbelievable!



How can anyone (that isn't single) live on 35k a year?



I live in Louisiana, ranked 49th in poverty, no property

taxes on anything under 80k. and I make 75K and my wife

(a school teacher) makes 22K and I still have trouble paying

the bills.



Now LA schools suck so my two kids are in private

school, plus I have some credit card bills, a mortgage,

cable, car note, etc. but I would have to declare bankruptcy

to go on 35K.



And that's what the industry has to offer?



What is wrong with you people? I guess the start at entry

level and work your way up thing is fine, especially for the

younger crowd just starting out, but I thought the days of

staying with a company long term were over. Companies have no

loyalty to tenured employees anymore; jut lay them off when

profits take a dip.



Screw big companies, they scare me. Now, a government job

that's what you want. Can't get fired, excellent benefits,

great retirement. Eh, Consultant?



kpg



"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message



-

super-gimp



"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in message



-

i am a consultant, contract employee, fully expendable, i am here to perform

the work which they refuse and are not capable of doing. but yes, the

government gig is ideal, because, you can be a complete idiot with no

recognizable skills and never get fired or repremanded for not even

attempting to pretend to work. i see it every day.





"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com>wrote in message



-

"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in news:OJg4IevJEHA.4072

@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:



really? I can't find the camera in my office. where did you put it?



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

sit at home most days of the week and drink beer for that kinda money



"Kwyjibo" <Nospam@spam.com>wrote in message



-

waz up, daddy-o! you makin' fun of me?



"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in



-

Not that there is anything wrong with that.



Nice work if you can get it.



kpg





-

oh, you use linux too.



"Consultant" <consultant_mcngp@yahoo.com>wrote in news:OuCNIavJEHA.3084

@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl:



-

Uh... as a "government" worker, I beg to differ. High end, HIGHEST

possible rate here is $29 an hour, canadian tire money. I'm making $25

now. Hence the medical school consideration. My BF works for a hospital,

also Government, makes $30 as well. He sin't likely to get a raise

either, despite his experience (years) certs, or the fact that he has 4

hospitals fighting over him. I still can't believe some of the stories

he tells me about the stupid poeple who work there...



On a side note, I have had 4 users tell me their passwords today. No

one suspects the IT people :)



kpg wrote:

--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

kpg opined, On 4/20/04 9:34 AM:



Not easy. But can, do, and are thankful for what we have.



You simply have way too many bills.



See above. Not all have the luxury of sending their dimpled darlings to

a private school.



If you're lucky!



I dunno. What is wrong with you?



I guess the start at entry

Pretty much where most start out. Nice for you that you were able to

avoid that part.



That's about right. Loyalty is an archaic concept, anyway. Besides,

older employees cost too much. Can get two or three inexperienced for

the price of one. Management knows that a trained chimp can do your job

anyway, right?



If you're lucky enough to find one, you betcha. If not, you make do with

what you can, and be glad you're not flipping burgers or stuffing

grocery sacks.



JaR

.02¢ Thug





-

red hat, yes



"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in message



-

in my military days I started out at only $18,000 CDN (back in 90)... I was

19 and that was a lot of money for me... worked my way thru the ranks... had

a couple of kids... got divorced... raised the kids as a single mom making

$42,000 at time of release... work that out in American and that is only

$31, 000 USD... still had enough to live well... had a car... ok home...

(well as ok as military housing gets)... wasnt swamped in debt... I made an

okay living



--

Sue MCNGP #69

Proud member since April 8, 2002

"kpg" <ipost@thereforeiam.com>wrote in message



-

Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in news:408559f8$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:



well, as another gov worker, your in the wrong part of town kitty. I wont

tell you what I make for the sake of our freindship...



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

I almost did the same thing :)



My mom, divorced and 42, makes 8.50 and hour (Canadian). She pays 1000

rent and has 3 kids. I thought army pay was great...anxious to sign up,

at 19... til I got my job here.



Now I'm 21 (barely) making 25 an hour, living at home scot free, and

getting free food :) Gotta love you parents.



Brat wrote:

--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

Neil - let it rip. I'm willing to relocate to Toronto- if there's

anything available, lol. YOu have to remember you're older, and much

more experienced!



Neil wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in news:408561f3$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:



ouch! (checks for more grey hairs)



60k+ and getting a raise this year. but I'm south of TO. could get more

there. But it all is a matter of what you can negotiate...



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

you can always come here and move into my basement. provided you wiling to

help finish it.



:-)



Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in



-

Only if I can decorate it too.





Won't your wife get upset ? :)



Rowdy Yates wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in news:40856864$1@obsidian.gov.bc.ca:



nah, she's lookin to ditch him any way...



*running*



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

Kat wrote:

Is she hawt?



--

Fris "Hi SWAMBO! I'm kidding in this post!" bee®



Certaholics

groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics">groups.yahoo.com/group/certaholics



-

i thought you were going to work for a cruise liner?



"Kat" <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in message



-

my cousin says they are begging for IT in Ottawa... he was trying to

convince me to move there when he was down last week



--

Sue MCNGP #69

Proud member since April 8, 2002

"Neil" <neilmcse@nospamforyou.com>wrote in message



-

I've tried convincing C if I could move into his garage lol



--

Sue MCNGP #69

Proud member since April 8, 2002

"Rowdy Yates" <rowdy_yates2@remove.lycos.com>wrote in message



-

You're right. I do have too many bills. Can I send

you some of them?



Yes. But here its common. Plus its where my wife

works so we get a 10% discount.



I dunno.



Didn't avoid it. I was just toying with the (now I realize) stupid idea

of a career change. What was I thinking?



NO. And please don't tell them.



If I had stayed in the military I could retire with

30 years in 2006 (assuming I was still alive).



Oh well. Just remember: You can't take it with you.



kpg







-

Frisbee® <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com>wrote in news:ObvlOSwJEHA.808

@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:



are you asking her to post photos of her mom?



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in news:aZdhc.24180

$Np3.892245@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:



government, I LOVE IT!



--

Neil MCNGP (# of available hosts in 255.255.255.224)

"you'd do what, to who, for how many biscuits?"

-

she couldn't care less about flinguini's.



but she will kick your ass from here to BC if you attempt to decorate the

house.



;-)





Kat <misty@No.SPAM.flynt.org>wrote in



-

No. Wait. How much money did you say you made?



Frisbee® wrote:

--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

"Brat" <likeIwouldtellyou@inyourdreams.com>wrote in news:uZdhc.24182

$Np3.892163@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca:



he lives in LA, right? i would ditch my wife and move into his garage just

to hang out on the beach!!

-

Delayed until summer. Currently sweating discrete math for next 11 weeks.



Consultant wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

Me too. with all the money he makes, he must have a mansion. We can both

move in.



Free food and rent :D



Rowdy Yates wrote:



--

Kat



/* To be or Not to be. Aww, to hell with it */



-

"Frisbee®" <billLASTINIT@dasi-software.com>wrote in message

Awesome. Kat's got a hot mommy. Bonus!



Yes, Mrs. H, Fris was just kidding. Now stop googling him.



--



KB - MCNGP "silent thug" #26



first initial last name AT hotmail DOT com





-