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Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?

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Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files herbzee wrote:
> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
=====================================
Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:

Movie Maker 2 -
Importing Video from Discs
http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b

Editing video from a dvd
camcorder
http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k

Movie Maker 2 -
Importing MPEG Files
http://tinyurl.com/eajjh

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files John Inzer wrote:
> herbzee wrote:
>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
> =====================================
> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>
> Movie Maker 2 -
> Importing Video from Discs
> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>
> Editing video from a dvd
> camcorder
> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>
> Movie Maker 2 -
> Importing MPEG Files
> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>
Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is edit
some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then put on
DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back to DVD
or CD.
If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
anything to do instead.
Cheers-Herb.

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files
"herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
> John Inzer wrote:
>> herbzee wrote:
>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>> =====================================
>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 -
>> Importing Video from Discs
>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>
>> Editing video from a dvd
>> camcorder
>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>
>> Movie Maker 2 -
>> Importing MPEG Files
>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>
> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is edit
> some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then put on
> DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back to DVD or
> CD.
> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
> anything to do instead.
> Cheers-Herb.
>

I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes to
DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting the
.vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes reasonably sized
files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of my relevant WMC
settings are:
Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows Media
Video 9 Codec
Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9

I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but that
gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it seems WMM
likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files John Hanley wrote:
>
> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>> John Inzer wrote:
>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>> =====================================
>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>
>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>> camcorder
>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>
>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back
>> to DVD or CD.
>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>> anything to do instead.
>> Cheers-Herb.
>>
>
> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
> my relevant WMC settings are:
> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
> Media Video 9 Codec
> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>
> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>
>
>
>
>
Thanx John Hanley, I'll give ir a shot.
Cheers-Herb.

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files , what I'm trying to do is
>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back
>>> to DVD or CD.
>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>> anything to do instead.
>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>
>>
>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>> Media Video 9 Codec
>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>
>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at

You'd be better trying to get the vhs to your pc if you can find an anlogue
to digital converter to borrow, or use a digital camcorder which has av-in,
as copying to dvd, I suspect using advd recorder, will give you poor mpeg2
files, which have been compressed, you then convert these, which compresses
them again, you then edit and make your dvd, compressing again......... old
footage is poor, but this many compression stages will ruin it.
Taking it in via good quality converter or cam will give you a dv.avi file,
which will be lossless on editng and will only need the one compression
stage to Mpeg2 when making your final dvd.

Graham

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files Two things -

1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original source
if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.

2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob to
.mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after you
change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I don't
know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality. You need at
least 6Mbps.

"John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
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>
> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>> John Inzer wrote:
>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>> =====================================
>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>
>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>> camcorder
>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>
>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>
>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is edit
>> some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then put on
>> DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back to DVD or
>> CD.
>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>> anything to do instead.
>> Cheers-Herb.
>>
>
> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes to
> DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting the
> .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes reasonably
> sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of my relevant
> WMC settings are:
> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows Media
> Video 9 Codec
> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>
> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but that
> gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it seems
> WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>
>
>
>
>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried that
and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into WMM led
to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time would show
a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error message. That
is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob to a .wmv. This issue
is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh. You may have better
experience, but that was mine.

"EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> Two things -
>
> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>
> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob to
> .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after you
> change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I
> don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality. You
> need at least 6Mbps.
>
>
> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>
>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>> =====================================
>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>
>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>
>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>> camcorder
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>
>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>
>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is edit
>>> some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then put on
>>> DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back to DVD
>>> or CD.
>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>> anything to do instead.
>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>
>>
>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>> Media Video 9 Codec
>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>
>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files I keep forgetting to mention that I am using the Vista version of MM on a
very high-end PC.

"John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried that
> and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into WMM led
> to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time would
> show a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error
> message. That is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob to a
> .wmv. This issue is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh. You
> may have better experience, but that was mine.
>
> "EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
>> Two things -
>>
>> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
>> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>>
>> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob to
>> .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after you
>> change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I
>> don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality. You
>> need at least 6Mbps.
>>
>>
>> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>
>>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>>
>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>>
>>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>>> camcorder
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>>
>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>>
>>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>>>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back
>>>> to DVD or CD.
>>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>>> anything to do instead.
>>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
>>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
>>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
>>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>>> Media Video 9 Codec
>>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>>
>>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
>>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files Still having agreat lesson in frustration let alone the stress factor.
Have tried anumber of the suggestions below to no avail or unstisfactory
results. Right now I'm trying to encode to WMV files using WMENC and no
matter what option I choose in "Content Distribution", it always hangs
part way thru the second pass. Why two passes an how to circumvent this?

John Hanley wrote:
> Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried
> that and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into
> WMM led to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time
> would show a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error
> message. That is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob to
> a .wmv. This issue is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh.
> You may have better experience, but that was mine.
>
> "EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
>> Two things -
>>
>> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
>> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>>
>> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob
>> to .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker
>> after you change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in
>> quality. Also, I don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR"
>> as DVD quality. You need at least 6Mbps.
>>
>>
>> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>
>>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>>> =====================================
>>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>>
>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>>
>>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>>> camcorder
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>>
>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>>
>>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and
>>>> then put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited
>>>> portions back to DVD or CD.
>>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>>> anything to do instead.
>>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS
>>> tapes to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am
>>> converting the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This
>>> makes reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok.
>>> Some of my relevant WMC settings are:
>>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>>> Media Video 9 Codec
>>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>>
>>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM;
>>> it seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good
>>> information at http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files two pass vbr will make two passes, one pas vbr will make one pass, 1 pass
cbr will make one pass.

--

Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.com

"herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:uYHAi.9$_A5.6@trndny03...
> Still having agreat lesson in frustration let alone the stress factor.
> Have tried anumber of the suggestions below to no avail or unstisfactory
> results. Right now I'm trying to encode to WMV files using WMENC and no
> matter what option I choose in "Content Distribution", it always hangs
> part way thru the second pass. Why two passes an how to circumvent this?
>
>
> John Hanley wrote:
>> Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried that
>> and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into WMM
>> led to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time
>> would show a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error
>> message. That is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob to a
>> .wmv. This issue is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh.
>> You may have better experience, but that was mine.
>>
>> "EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>> Two things -
>>>
>>> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
>>> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>>>
>>> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob to
>>> .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after you
>>> change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I
>>> don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality.
>>> You need at least 6Mbps.
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>>
>>>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>>>> =====================================
>>>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>>>> camcorder
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>>>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>>>>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back
>>>>> to DVD or CD.
>>>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>>>> anything to do instead.
>>>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
>>>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
>>>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>>>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
>>>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>>>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>>>> Media Video 9 Codec
>>>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>>>
>>>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>>>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
>>>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
>>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files I don't know if this will help you, but I did have a problem with WMENC
stopping part way through the 2nd pass. I saw the folllowing in the error
log: "An unexpected error occurred with the audio codec (0xC00D0BC3)" I
found this explanation: "This message indicates that the content cannot be
encoded using the current session settings. One possible cause of this
problem is if you are using a two-pass VBR audio encoding mode (bit
rate-based VBR or peak bit rate-based VBR), and the source audio changed
between the first and second pass of encoding. This can occur, for example,
if you are sourcing from a file with an .mpg file name extension and there
is an issue with the MPEG-2 decoder. To encode the content, you can change
the session to use two-pass CBR audio encoding. (You can continue to use a
two-pass VBR encoding mode for the video if you want.) Alternatively, you
can encode the content to an uncompressed file first and then encode the
uncompressed file using a two-pass VBR audio encoding mode."

So, I changed my audio encoding to "Voice quality audio (CBR)" and the
subsequent encodings have worked perfectly. Have a look at your error log
to see what kind of errors accompany the hang up.

"herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:uYHAi.9$_A5.6@trndny03...
> Still having agreat lesson in frustration let alone the stress factor.
> Have tried anumber of the suggestions below to no avail or unstisfactory
> results. Right now I'm trying to encode to WMV files using WMENC and no
> matter what option I choose in "Content Distribution", it always hangs
> part way thru the second pass. Why two passes an how to circumvent this?
>
>
> John Hanley wrote:
>> Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried that
>> and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into WMM
>> led to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time
>> would show a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error
>> message. That is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob to a
>> .wmv. This issue is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh.
>> You may have better experience, but that was mine.
>>
>> "EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>> Two things -
>>>
>>> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
>>> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>>>
>>> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from .vob to
>>> .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after you
>>> change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I
>>> don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality.
>>> You need at least 6Mbps.
>>>
>>>
>>> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>>
>>>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>>>> =====================================
>>>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>>>> camcorder
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>>>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>>>>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions back
>>>>> to DVD or CD.
>>>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>>>> anything to do instead.
>>>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS tapes
>>>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am converting
>>>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>>>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok. Some of
>>>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>>>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>>>> Media Video 9 Codec
>>>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>>>
>>>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>>>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in WMM; it
>>>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
>>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Windows XP MovieMaker >> VOB files To John Hanley, thanx for the detailed input.
Frankly I get no option to the number of passes, I tried some of your
suggestions, I neve get an error log and now I can't even open WMENC
Gives back a missing codec message-which I never saw before. FED-UP.
Cheers-Herb.

John Hanley wrote:
> I don't know if this will help you, but I did have a problem with WMENC
> stopping part way through the 2nd pass. I saw the folllowing in the
> error log: "An unexpected error occurred with the audio codec
> (0xC00D0BC3)" I found this explanation: "This message indicates that
> the content cannot be encoded using the current session settings. One
> possible cause of this problem is if you are using a two-pass VBR audio
> encoding mode (bit rate-based VBR or peak bit rate-based VBR), and the
> source audio changed between the first and second pass of encoding. This
> can occur, for example, if you are sourcing from a file with an .mpg
> file name extension and there is an issue with the MPEG-2 decoder. To
> encode the content, you can change the session to use two-pass CBR audio
> encoding. (You can continue to use a two-pass VBR encoding mode for the
> video if you want.) Alternatively, you can encode the content to an
> uncompressed file first and then encode the uncompressed file using a
> two-pass VBR audio encoding mode."
>
> So, I changed my audio encoding to "Voice quality audio (CBR)" and the
> subsequent encodings have worked perfectly. Have a look at your error
> log to see what kind of errors accompany the hang up.
>
>
> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:uYHAi.9$_A5.6@trndny03...
>> Still having agreat lesson in frustration let alone the stress factor.
>> Have tried anumber of the suggestions below to no avail or unstisfactory
>> results. Right now I'm trying to encode to WMV files using WMENC and no
>> matter what option I choose in "Content Distribution", it always hangs
>> part way thru the second pass. Why two passes an how to circumvent this?
>>
>>
>> John Hanley wrote:
>>> Regarding the suggestion to rename .vob files to .mpg: I have tried
>>> that
>>> and found that importing an .mpg (renamed from .vob) directly into WMM
>>> led to frequent processing problems. One example: the Duration time
>>> would show a bogus value like 25 hours or 20 seconds, or gave some error
>>> message. That is why I decided to take the time to convert the .vob
>>> to a
>>> .wmv. This issue is discussed in detail at http://tinyurl.com/eajjh.
>>> You may have better experience, but that was mine.
>>>
>>> "EvanBarr" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>> Two things -
>>>>
>>>> 1) Graham Hughes is right, you should always start with the original
>>>> source if possible since every conversion degrades the results further.
>>>>
>>>> 2) Don't convert your VOBs to anything. Simply rename them from
>>>> .vob to
>>>> .mpg. VOBs are mpeg-2 files and will work fine in Movie Maker after
>>>> you
>>>> change the extension. WMV is significantly lower in quality. Also, I
>>>> don't know why Microsoft labels "1Mbps Bit rate VBR" as DVD quality.
>>>> You need at least 6Mbps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "John Hanley" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%EMail@HideDomain.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "herbzee" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:WAHxi.365$nB3.164@trndny02...
>>>>>> John Inzer wrote:
>>>>>>> herbzee wrote:
>>>>>>>> How can I import VOB files into MovieMaker?
>>>>>>> =====================================
>>>>>>> Maybe the following articles will offer some ideas:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>>> Importing Video from Discs
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/n3g2b
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Editing video from a dvd
>>>>>>> camcorder
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/rdo3k
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Movie Maker 2 -
>>>>>>> Importing MPEG Files
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/eajjh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanx John Inzer, for the prompt reply.
>>>>>> Before attempting any of U're suggestions, what I'm trying to do is
>>>>>> edit some 16mm WWII footage that was transferred to VHS tape and then
>>>>>> put on DVD by a friend. Then I'll try to copy the edited portions
>>>>>> back
>>>>>> to DVD or CD.
>>>>>> If this info changes any of U're suggestions, pls advise if there's
>>>>>> anything to do instead.
>>>>>> Cheers-Herb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently doing something similar. I dubbed some family VHS
>>>>> tapes
>>>>> to DVD, then copied the .vob files onto my hard drive. I am
>>>>> converting
>>>>> the .vob files to .wmv using Windows Media Encoder. This makes
>>>>> reasonably sized files that Windows Movie Maker can handle ok.
>>>>> Some of
>>>>> my relevant WMC settings are:
>>>>> Video: Encoding to DVD quality video (1Mbps Bit rate VBR) -- Windows
>>>>> Media Video 9 Codec
>>>>> Audio: Encoding to Voice qualithy audio (CBR) - Windows Audio Voice 9
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also done the .vob conversion using VirtualDub for MPEG-2, but
>>>>> that gives an .avi file which seemed to give me some trouble in
>>>>> WMM; it
>>>>> seems WMM likes .wmv files best. You can also get good information at
>>>>> http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/forums/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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