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Jose_Csharp





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 17:29:38 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Hi there,

Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).

If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
license still carry through?

Kind Regards,

Nev

Windows XP1181  
 
 
anonymous





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 17:29:38 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Just do , nobody in here knows. They can give you a
opnion, but that is about it.









>-----Original Message-----
>Hi there,
>
>Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it.
We then
>upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume
License).
>
>If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would
this still be
>legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know,
you are not
>supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But
now that I've
>upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction
on the 98 OEM
>license still carry through?
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Nev
>.
>
 
 
kurttrail





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 17:42:06 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

EMail@HideDomain.com wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
>
> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
> OEM license still carry through?
>

I would think not, but . . . .

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
the computer system on which that operating system was first installed.
Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
transferred." -
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/8/9/68964284-864d-4a6d-aed9-f2c1f8f23e14/license_transfer.doc

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

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Nev





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 18:03:19 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question hi Kurttrail,

Thanks for your reply (and everyone elses) it's much appreciated.

The document you quoted from seems to be talking about a transfer of
license from one company/subsidiary to another. In my case I want to
transfer it to new hardware (within the same company).

Kind Regards,

Nev


>
> EMail@HideDomain.com wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> > upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
> >
> > If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> > legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> > supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> > upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
> > OEM license still carry through?
> >
>
> I would think not, but . . . .
>
> "If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
> the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
> license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
> the computer system on which that operating system was first installed.
> Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
> transferred." -
> http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/8/9/68964284-864d-4a6d-aed9-f2c1f8f23e14/license_transfer.doc
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/
>
>
 
 
Craig





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 18:46:51 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Well, I have a store bought Windows XP. When installing it on the PC I just
built, it asks you to put in an older version to make sure it is an upgrade,
and that you have an older version to upgrade from. It wouldn't see the
files it needed to see off my old RESTORE disk the old computer came from.
It needed to be a Windows disk, not the disk that has Windows on it and a
thousand other programs that companies like Dell, HP send with there
machines. So, I had to have my dad make a copy of his old Windows 98 disk.
After installing, it noticed that some of my hardware had changed. It then
gave me an 800 number to call, and an automated system gave me the numbers I
had to use to activate XP. I then replaced yet more hardware, and had to
call the number again. I talked to a real life human being this time, but
still no problems. He just asked what I had done recently, and I told him I
got a new motherboard, proccesser, ext. They didn't have a problem with
that.

Craig

<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> Hi there,
>
> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
>
> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
> license still carry through?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nev


 
 
Donald





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 19:15:26 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question In article <EMail@HideDomain.com>,
EMail@HideDomain.com says...
> Hi there,
>
> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
>
> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98 OEM
> license still carry through?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nev
>
Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License did not need
the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would be the active
license.

If your Volume License allows for transference to newer machines, go
right ahead and do it.
--
Donald L McDaniel
Post All replies to the Newsgroup, so that all may be informed
============================================================

 
 
Bruce





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 20:34:49 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Greetings --

You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer PC,
assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but not
the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Bruce Chambers

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<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> Hi there,
>
> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
>
> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
OEM
> license still carry through?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nev


 
 
tandral





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 20:55:12 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question
>-----Original Message-----
>In article
<EMail@HideDomain.com>,
>EMail@HideDomain.com says...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on
it. We then
>> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License
(Volume License).
>>
>> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would
this still be
>> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know,
you are not
>> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But
now that I've
>> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the
restriction on the 98 OEM
>> license still carry through?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Nev
>>
>Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License
did not need
>the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would
be the active
>license.
>
>If your Volume License allows for transference to newer
machines, go
>right ahead and do it.
>--
>Donald L McDaniel
>Post All replies to the Newsgroup, so that all may be
informed
>==========================================================
==
>
>.
>

When you installed the "upgrade" version of windows xp
using your oem copy of win 98 you then took the EULA of
the windows xp...so you can install the windows xp onto a
differnt computer now
 
 
Nev





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 21:10:32 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question hi Tandral,

> >Since the installation with the Windows XP Volume License
> did not need
> >the OEM copy of 98 to install, the Volume License would
> be the active
> >license.

I don't quite understand what you mean ... you see, the Windows XP
Volume license is an upgrade license... and the Win98 OEM product is the
qualifying product - so you do need the Win98 OEM product.

Or I must be misunderstanding what youre saying?

Kind Regards,

Nev
 
 
Nev





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 21:18:38 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question hi Bruce,

> You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer PC,
> assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but not
> the underlying OEM Win98 license.

Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the qualifying
product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even though
the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98 OEM
license? (which is what I was hoping for :) )
Or are you saying something else altogether?

Kind Regards,

Nev








> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
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> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
> > upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
> >
> > If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
> > legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
> > supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
> > upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
> OEM
> > license still carry through?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Nev
>
>
>
 
 
Bruce





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 22:57:59 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Greetings --

You can transfer the VL Upgrade license, but it won't install
(because it's an _upgrade_) unless there's already a qualifying OS on
the destination PC.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
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"Nev George" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> hi Bruce,
>
> > You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer
PC,
> > assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but
not
> > the underlying OEM Win98 license.
>
> Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the
qualifying
> product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
> Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even
though
> the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98
OEM
> license? (which is what I was hoping for :) )
> Or are you saying something else altogether?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nev
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bruce Chambers
> >
> > --
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> > <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> > news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We
then
> > > upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume
License).
> > >
> > > If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this
still be
> > > legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are
not
> > > supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that
I've
> > > upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the
98
> > OEM
> > > license still carry through?
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Nev
> >
> >
> >


 
 
Nev





PostPosted: Thu Dec 04 23:48:41 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question hi Bruce,

So if there isnt a qualifying OS on the PC, it wont even ask to insert
the media for the qualifying OS?

Nev


> Greetings --
>
> You can transfer the VL Upgrade license, but it won't install
> (because it's an _upgrade_) unless there's already a qualifying OS on
> the destination PC.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Nev George" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
> news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> > hi Bruce,
> >
> > > You could legitimately transfer the WinXP license to a newer
> PC,
> > > assuming it already has a license for a qualifying product, but
> not
> > > the underlying OEM Win98 license.
> >
> > Could you please clarify ... are you saying that since the
> qualifying
> > product is Win98 OEM, the WinXP cannot be transferred?
> > Or are you saying that, yes the WinXP can be transferred, even
> though
> > the qualifying product is Win98 OEM, but I can't transfer the Win98
> OEM
> > license? (which is what I was hoping for :) )
> > Or are you saying something else altogether?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Nev
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Bruce Chambers
> > >
 
 
kurttrail





PostPosted: Fri Dec 05 04:03:24 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question "By the act of scrolling this post on your computer, and/or printing or
replying to this post, you agree that I am your everlasting Lord &
Saviour. Breach of this term will result in you burning in hell for
ever and ever! Amen!"

Nev George wrote:

> hi Kurttrail,
>
> Thanks for your reply (and everyone elses) it's much appreciated.
>
> The document you quoted from seems to be talking about a transfer of
> license from one company/subsidiary to another. In my case I want to
> transfer it to new hardware (within the same company).
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nev
>
>
>>
>> EMail@HideDomain.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Say if we had a PC that had Windows 98 OEM version on it. We then
>>> upgraded to Win XP using a Win XP Upgrade License (Volume License).
>>>
>>> If we were to then totally upgrade the hardware, would this still be
>>> legal? Obviously with an OEM version, as far as I know, you are not
>>> supposed to move it or reinstall it to another PC. But now that I've
>>> upgraded it to WinXP Volume License, does the restriction on the 98
>>> OEM license still carry through?
>>>
>>
>> I would think not, but . . . .
>>
>> "If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also
>> transfer
>> the underlying qualifying license. The customer may not transfer a
>> license for an operating system unless they transfer the license with
>> the computer system on which that operating system was first
>> installed.
>> Upgrade Advantage and Software Assurance subscriptions may not be
>> transferred." -
>>
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/8/9/68964284-864d-4a6d-aed9-f2c1f8f23e14/license_transfer.doc
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/

"If the customer transfers an upgrade license, they must also transfer
the underlying qualifying license."

And you already know the transfer terms for OEM 98. "Obviously with an
OEM version, as far as I know, you are not supposed to move it or
reinstall it to another PC."

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Bruce





PostPosted: Fri Dec 05 19:35:20 CST 2003 Top

Windows XP >> OEM Licensing Question Greetings --

It'll ask for the media of the qualifying OS if it doesn't find it
already installed.

Bruce Chambers

--
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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having both at once. -- RAH


"Nev George" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> hi Bruce,
>
> So if there isnt a qualifying OS on the PC, it wont even ask to
insert
> the media for the qualifying OS?
>
> Nev
>
>