DISK SPACE LOST ???

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? First of all....
HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.

I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours to get
a solution, with no results.
I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB ... and
it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY DVD I have tried.
On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space is 702 MB.
I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and CDBurnerXP Pro 3.
How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down to 4488 MB ???
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Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
Amber

Windows XP1353

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? Hi,

Overhead for the Table of Contents and possible rewrites.

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Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone
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Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Amber" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com...
> First of all....
> HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours to
> get
> a solution, with no results.
> I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
> On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB ...
> and
> it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY DVD I have
> tried.
> On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space is 702 MB.
> I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and CDBurnerXP Pro 3.
> How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down to 4488 MB ???
> --
> Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
> Amber

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? "Amber" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com
> First of all....
> HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours
> to get a solution, with no results.
> I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
> On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB
> ... and it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY
> DVD I have tried. On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space
> is 702 MB.
> I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and CDBurnerXP Pro 3.
> How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down to 4488 MB ???

4488 MB = 4.6 GB
And there's the overhead.

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Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? On 02/01/2005 Amber wrote:

> First of all....
> HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours
> to get a solution, with no results.
> I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
> On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB
> ... and it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY
> DVD I have tried. On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space
> is 702 MB. I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and
> CDBurnerXP Pro 3. How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down
> to 4488 MB ??? --
> Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
> Amber

Disk drive capacities are measure in 'decimal' megabytes/gigabytes
where a megabyte is 1,000,000 bytes.

So 4.7GB = 4,700,000 'decimal' bytes

To convert it to what the computer understands you divide by 1024 to
convert to 'binary' megabytes/gigabytes so:

4,700,000 / 1024 = 4589.84375 bytes.

There's also a bit of a loss for the system giving the figure you are
seeing.

It's confusing, I don't know how it started but I suspect the marketing
people played their part :-)

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Jeff Gaines
Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? MY GOSH !!!!!....
I feel SO STUPID ... I feel like a dunce !!!!!!
When everyone stops laughing, please forgive me for posting such a stupid
question.
Thanks all

"Jeff Gaines" wrote:

> On 02/01/2005 Amber wrote:
>
> > First of all....
> > HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
> >
> > I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours
> > to get a solution, with no results.
> > I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
> > On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB
> > ... and it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY
> > DVD I have tried. On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space
> > is 702 MB. I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and
> > CDBurnerXP Pro 3. How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down
> > to 4488 MB ??? --
> > Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
> > Amber
>
>
> Disk drive capacities are measure in 'decimal' megabytes/gigabytes
> where a megabyte is 1,000,000 bytes.
>
> So 4.7GB = 4,700,000 'decimal' bytes
>
> To convert it to what the computer understands you divide by 1024 to
> convert to 'binary' megabytes/gigabytes so:
>
> 4,700,000 / 1024 = 4589.84375 bytes.
>
> There's also a bit of a loss for the system giving the figure you are
> seeing.
>
> It's confusing, I don't know how it started but I suspect the marketing
> people played their part :-)
>
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines
> Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm
>

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? At least, I have finally given up looking for the "ANY KEY" .....

"Amber" wrote:

> MY GOSH !!!!!....
> I feel SO STUPID ... I feel like a dunce !!!!!!
> When everyone stops laughing, please forgive me for posting such a stupid
> question.
> Thanks all
>
> "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
> > On 02/01/2005 Amber wrote:
> >
> > > First of all....
> > > HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours
> > > to get a solution, with no results.
> > > I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
> > > On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB
> > > ... and it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY
> > > DVD I have tried. On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space
> > > is 702 MB. I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and
> > > CDBurnerXP Pro 3. How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down
> > > to 4488 MB ??? --
> > > Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
> > > Amber
> >
> >
> > Disk drive capacities are measure in 'decimal' megabytes/gigabytes
> > where a megabyte is 1,000,000 bytes.
> >
> > So 4.7GB = 4,700,000 'decimal' bytes
> >
> > To convert it to what the computer understands you divide by 1024 to
> > convert to 'binary' megabytes/gigabytes so:
> >
> > 4,700,000 / 1024 = 4589.84375 bytes.
> >
> > There's also a bit of a loss for the system giving the figure you are
> > seeing.
> >
> > It's confusing, I don't know how it started but I suspect the marketing
> > people played their part :-)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Gaines
> > Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm
> >

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? Programmers work in powers of 2.=20

2^10 =3D 1024 (and the SI unit is Ki not K)
2^20 =3D 1024 x 1024 (1 048 576 and the SI unit was Mi not M)
2^30 =3D 1024 x 1024 x 1024 (1 073 741 824 and the SI unit is Gi not G)

Windows and Dos were written before Ki, Mi, and Gi were invented so used =
K, M, and G.

Also a sector is 512 bytes formatted but is 576 bytes unformatted. That =
is the drive itself uses 64 bytes for every 512 the operating system can =
use. These are timing bytes so the heads know when to start reading.

Take your standard 2 meg floppy. First of all 64 th / 512th (ie 1/8th) =
is being used by the drive electronics. More is used by the structures =
that allow an OS to find stuff on a disk. The end result is a 1.44 Mb =
floppy in the PC world. For the older 3 1/3 in disks a PC would format =
to 720K while a mac could save 800K due to the difference is OS =
overhead.=20

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"Jeff Gaines" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message =
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> On 02/01/2005 Amber wrote:
>=20
>> First of all....
>> HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone.
>>=20
>> I'm hoping someone can help me on something I have been working hours
>> to get a solution, with no results.
>> I'm trying to download some songs ... to DVD-RW (and to DVD-R).
>> On the DVD problem I'm having, it shows that the disk has 4488.06 MB
>> ... and it should show as near as 4.7 GB !!!!! It shows this on ANY
>> DVD I have tried. On CD-RW and CD-R, it is shown that the disk space
>> is 702 MB. I have tried using NERO, Roxio Easy Creator, and
>> CDBurnerXP Pro 3. How come the disk space for the DVD's is lost down
>> to 4488 MB ??? --=20
>> Thanks for any assistance or suggestions.
>> Amber
>=20
>=20
> Disk drive capacities are measure in 'decimal' megabytes/gigabytes
> where a megabyte is 1,000,000 bytes.
>=20
> So 4.7GB =3D 4,700,000 'decimal' bytes
>=20
> To convert it to what the computer understands you divide by 1024 to
> convert to 'binary' megabytes/gigabytes so:
>=20
> 4,700,000 / 1024 =3D 4589.84375 bytes.
>=20
> There's also a bit of a loss for the system giving the figure you are
> seeing.
>=20
> It's confusing, I don't know how it started but I suspect the =
marketing
> people played their part :-)
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Jeff Gaines
> Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? On 03/01/2005 Amber wrote:

> MY GOSH !!!!!....
> I feel SO STUPID ... I feel like a dunce !!!!!!
> When everyone stops laughing, please forgive me for posting such a
> stupid question.
> Thanks all

There's no such thing as a stupid question, although there can be some
pretty astonishing answers sometimes :-)

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Jeff Gaines
Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? On 03/01/2005 David Candy wrote:

> Programmers work in powers of 2.
>
> 2^10 = 1024 (and the SI unit is Ki not K)
> 2^20 = 1024 x 1024 (1 048 576 and the SI unit was Mi not M)
> 2^30 = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 (1 073 741 824 and the SI unit is Gi not G)

If I've understood correctly then it is correct to refer to a hard disk
as 1 GB but for memory it should be 1 GiB?

I've never seen those SI units in use though.

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Jeff Gaines
Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? Only hard disk manufacturers use decimal. Everyone else uses binary. =
Everything about disks is reported in binary except from manufacturers. =
All the K, M, and G in Windows are really Ki, Mi, and Gi. But for =
compatability they still use decimal symbols.

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"Jeff Gaines" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message =
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> On 03/01/2005 David Candy wrote:
>=20
>> Programmers work in powers of 2.=20
>>=20
>> 2^10 =3D 1024 (and the SI unit is Ki not K)
>> 2^20 =3D 1024 x 1024 (1 048 576 and the SI unit was Mi not M)
>> 2^30 =3D 1024 x 1024 x 1024 (1 073 741 824 and the SI unit is Gi not =
G)
>=20
>=20
> If I've understood correctly then it is correct to refer to a hard =
disk
> as 1 GB but for memory it should be 1 GiB?
>=20
> I've never seen those SI units in use though.
>=20
> --=20
> Jeff Gaines
> Posted with XanaNews 1.17.1.2 http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/delphi.htm

Windows XP Setup >> DISK SPACE LOST ??? "Amber" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
news:EMail@HideDomain.com
> MY GOSH !!!!!....
> I feel SO STUPID ... I feel like a dunce !!!!!!
> When everyone stops laughing, please forgive me for posting such a
> stupid question.
> Thanks all

Believe me, we have a lot more problems with stupid answers than stupid
questions. And your question isn't stupid. For instance a GB to a hard
drive manufacturer is different than the GB used by programmers.

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