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Installing 180GB HDD

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I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 recognize its

full capacity.



As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version 5.1.2600.1135

of ATAPI.SYS.



I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is recognized as

180GB in the BIOS settings.



I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown below:



System Key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

Value Name: EnableBigLba

Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

Value Data: (0 = disabled, 1 = enabled)



After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the format

window only has a 127GB capacity option.



What am I doing wrong?



Thanks in advance.


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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message =

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I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 recognize =

its

full capacity.

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As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version =

5.1.2600.1135

of ATAPI.SYS.

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I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is =

recognized as

180GB in the BIOS settings.

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I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown =

below:

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System Key:

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[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

Value Name: EnableBigLba

Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

Value Data: (0 =3D disabled, 1 =3D enabled)

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After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the =

format

window only has a 127GB capacity option.

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What am I doing wrong?

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Thanks in advance.

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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Ted" <""""""""""">wrote in message



"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

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I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 recognize its

full capacity.



As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version

5.1.2600.1135

of ATAPI.SYS.



I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is recognized

as

180GB in the BIOS settings.



I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown below:



System Key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

Value Name: EnableBigLba

Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

Value Data: (0 = disabled, 1 = enabled)



After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the format

window only has a 127GB capacity option.



What am I doing wrong?



Thanks in advance.





Read here;

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:

80/support/kb/articles/q303/0/13.asp&NoWebContent=1



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Thanks for the reply.



That's exactly the stuff I did, and still only had the option to format at

127GB in WinXP.



I was able to solve my problem by formatting using PartitionMagic and now

have the full 170 some GB of useable space.





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Re:Installing 180GB HDD

Do you have any suggestions as to why 48 bit LBA support was not installed

when I updated to SP1.





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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message =

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"Ted" <""""""""""">wrote in message

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"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

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>I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 recognize =

its

>full capacity.

>

>As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version

5.1.2600.1135

>of ATAPI.SYS.

>

>I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is =

recognized

as

>180GB in the BIOS settings.

>

>I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown =

below:

>

>System Key:

>=

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

>Value Name: EnableBigLba

>Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

>Value Data: (0 =3D disabled, 1 =3D enabled)

>

>After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the =

format

>window only has a 127GB capacity option.

>

>What am I doing wrong?

>

>Thanks in advance.

>

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Read here;

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dhttp://support.microsoft=

.com:

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80/support/kb/articles/q303/0/13.asp&NoWebContent=3D1

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Thanks for the reply.

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That's exactly the stuff I did, and still only had the option to =

format at

127GB in WinXP.



Then did you again reset and *save* changes made the BIOS to properly =

see the amounted drive space after the registry change?



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I was able to solve my problem by formatting using PartitionMagic and =

now

have the full 170 some GB of useable space.



You shouldn't have had to do any such thing as the XP CD should have =

done that properly with the amendments you should have made regarding =

LBA disk support and SP1.





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Re:Installing 180GB HDD

Have you removed the old partition created when you first attempted to

format the drive?



Recommend that you delete the current partition and repartition using full

size and reformat and see if that solves your problem.



Sounds like you did everything else OK as the MB recognizes the full drive

size, LBA is on etc.





"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

Quote
I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 recognize its

full capacity.



As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version

5.1.2600.1135

of ATAPI.SYS.



I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is recognized

as

180GB in the BIOS settings.



I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown below:



System Key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

Value Name: EnableBigLba

Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

Value Data: (0 = disabled, 1 = enabled)



After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the format

window only has a 127GB capacity option.



What am I doing wrong?



Thanks in advance.









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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message =

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Do you have any suggestions as to why 48 bit LBA support was not =

installed

when I updated to SP1.

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It is supported, or you wouldn't have the ability now to use such a =

large drive, would you? MS either dropped the ball when they wrote SP1, =

so that it should make the registry change. But then again, a BIOS is =

not the problem of MS, if settings there are needed for change.

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Re:Installing 180GB HDD

"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message



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I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1

recognize its

full capacity.





You probably have a BIOS that limits the size drive it supports.

Check your vendor or motherboard's web site to see if there's a

BIOS upgrade available.



--

Ken Blake

Please reply to the newsgroup





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"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain.com>wrote in message =

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"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

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>I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1

recognize its

>full capacity.

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You probably have a BIOS that limits the size drive it supports.

Check your vendor or motherboard's web site to see if there's a

BIOS upgrade available.

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You fuckwit! Did you not read that he had updated his BIOS for the =

specific drive? Oh, I forgot, you plonk so much, that you'll restart the =

questioning all over again, for answers that were already given!

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Re:Installing 180GB HDD

Ted, tisk tisk. You know that it's rude to imitate people. (Amethyst)

" Ted" <"""""'"""""">wrote in message



"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain.com>wrote in message

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"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

news:e6GG43FUDHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...



>I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1

recognize its

>full capacity.





You probably have a BIOS that limits the size drive it supports.

Check your vendor or motherboard's web site to see if there's a

BIOS upgrade available.





You fuckwit! Did you not read that he had updated his BIOS for the specific

drive? Oh, I forgot, you plonk so much, that you'll restart the questioning

all over again, for answers that were already given!





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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message =

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"LVTravel" <jtrashbin@dmv.com>wrote in message

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>Have you removed the old partition created when you first attempted =

to

>format the drive?

>

>Recommend that you delete the current partition and repartition =

using full

>size and reformat and see if that solves your problem.

>

>Sounds like you did everything else OK as the MB recognizes the full =

drive

>size, LBA is on etc.

>

>

>"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

>news:e6GG43FUDHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

>>I cannot install a new WD 180GB HDD and have WinXP Pro SP1 =

recognize its

>>full capacity.

>>

>>As noted above I have SP1 installed, I also installed version

>5.1.2600.1135

>>of ATAPI.SYS.

>>

>>I have updated my motherboard BIOS (Soyo K7V+) and the HDD is =

recognized

>as

>>180GB in the BIOS settings.

>>

>>I also edited the registry as recommended in another post as shown

below:

>>

>>System Key:

>>=

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Atapi\Parameters]

>>Value Name: EnableBigLba

>>Data Type: REG_DWORD (DWORD Value)

>>Value Data: (0 =3D disabled, 1 =3D enabled)

>>

>>After all of the above when I try to format the drive in WinXP the

format

>>window only has a 127GB capacity option.

>>

>>What am I doing wrong?

>>

>>Thanks in advance.

=20

I fired up PartitionMagic and that allowed me to format to its full =

capacity

(167GB). Now when I look at the format utility in WinXP it offers the

capacity as 167GB instead of 127GB as it was before formatting in

PartitionMagic.

=20

Beats me....



That's about right when Windows reports the HDD size based totally in =

binary (which it has to do). The manufacturer sold you a drive with 180 =

billion bytes of data storage, but they are arranged in a binary =

configuration so that data can be placed properly on the drive. Keep in =

mind a gigabyte can be 1,000,000,000 actual bytes (as a manufacturer =

will state in decimal) or a gigabyte in binary terms which is =

1,073,741,824 bytes. If you divide the latter number by 180,000,000,000, =

you'll come up roughly with 167.5

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Re:Installing 180GB HDD

Well the theory part is OK... but the math is way out.



Following your calculation the OP will get an answer of 1.073741824.



" Ted" <"""""'"""""">wrote in message



Quote
That's about right when Windows reports the HDD size based totally in

binary (which it has to do). The>manufacturer sold you a drive with 180

billion bytes of data storage, but they are arranged in a binary

Quote
configuration so that data can be placed properly on the drive. Keep in

mind a gigabyte can be>1,000,000,000 actual bytes (as a manufacturer will

state in decimal) or a gigabyte in binary terms which is>1,073,741,824

bytes. If you divide the latter number by 180,000,000,000, you'll come up

roughly with 167.5









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I wan't questioning the 167GB number. I was questioning the 127GB number.

I understand the difference between the manufacturer's 180GB spec and the PC

reporting 167GB.



Thanks for "jumping in ".



"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom>wrote in message

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Hi Jack



Apologies for jumping in here, but if your concern now lies only with a

167Gb capacity on an advertised 180Gb drive.... don't worry......



You are not missing any space, although the drive manufacturer could be

clearer.



In XP, open My Computer, select the appropriate drive and right-click,

select properties... beside 'capacity'

you will see the total number of bytes on your disk and to the right the

number of Gigabytes.



For example, on my 40Gb 'data' disk I have 40,007,729,152 bytes... which

is

also listed in disk properties as a capacity of 37.2Gb.



The Hard Drive manufacturer refers to the 'bytes' total in my case as

40Gb... and, in

purely decimal terms, it is - 40,000,000,000 bytes.



The 37.2Gb is what the computer 'sees'... because the computer calculates

1024 bytes as 1 Kb, 1024Kb as 1Mb, and 1024MB as 1Gb.....



so in my case 40007729152 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 (that's bytes =>Kilobytes

=>

Megabytes =>Gigabytes) is 37.2Gigabytes as far as the computer is

concerned.



Neither calculation of the disk size is 'wrong' ...... they are

equivalent.



In your case the drive capacity - approx 180,034,879,488 bytes - will be

referred to by the computer as 167.67Gb. The drive capacity may only show

the first 3 digits.



Hope that helps

Pete

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>I fired up PartitionMagic and that allowed me to format to its full

capacity

>(167GB). Now when I look at the format utility in WinXP it offers the

>capacity as 167GB instead of 127GB as it was before formatting in

>PartitionMagic.

>

>Beats me....

>

>

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Apologies for the misunderstanding.



Pete

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"Jack" <none@none.net>wrote in message

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I wan't questioning the 167GB number. I was questioning the 127GB number.

I understand the difference between the manufacturer's 180GB spec and the

PC

reporting 167GB.



Thanks for "jumping in ".



"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom>wrote in message

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>Hi Jack

>

>Apologies for jumping in here, but if your concern now lies only with a

>167Gb capacity on an advertised 180Gb drive.... don't worry......

>

>You are not missing any space, although the drive manufacturer could be

>clearer.

>

>In XP, open My Computer, select the appropriate drive and right-click,

>select properties... beside 'capacity'

>you will see the total number of bytes on your disk and to the right the

>number of Gigabytes.

>

>For example, on my 40Gb 'data' disk I have 40,007,729,152 bytes... which

is

>also listed in disk properties as a capacity of 37.2Gb.

>

>The Hard Drive manufacturer refers to the 'bytes' total in my case as

>40Gb... and, in

>purely decimal terms, it is - 40,000,000,000 bytes.

>

>The 37.2Gb is what the computer 'sees'... because the computer

calculates

>1024 bytes as 1 Kb, 1024Kb as 1Mb, and 1024MB as 1Gb.....

>

>so in my case 40007729152 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 (that's bytes =>

Kilobytes

=>

>Megabytes =>Gigabytes) is 37.2Gigabytes as far as the computer is

>concerned.

>

>Neither calculation of the disk size is 'wrong' ...... they are

equivalent.

>

>In your case the drive capacity - approx 180,034,879,488 bytes - will

be

>referred to by the computer as 167.67Gb. The drive capacity may only

show

>the first 3 digits.

>

>Hope that helps

>Pete

>----------------

>

>>

>>I fired up PartitionMagic and that allowed me to format to its full

>capacity

>>(167GB). Now when I look at the format utility in WinXP it offers the

>>capacity as 167GB instead of 127GB as it was before formatting in

>>PartitionMagic.

>>

>>Beats me....

>>

>>

>>

>

>









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Re:Installing 180GB HDD



"Pete Baker" <petebkrAThotmailDOTcom>wrote in message =

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Well the theory part is OK... but the math is way out.

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Following your calculation the OP will get an answer of 1.073741824.

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True, I should have reversed the equation.

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