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Sveta





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 12:21:53 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red I moved into new office with computers already in place. Running xp pro. I
have tried to defrag but defrag will not remove all the red lines that
indicate fragmented areas and go to blue like defrag usually does. It will
derag only about half the bar and leave half in red. Can anyone tell me why,
and can I fix this. The computer is working fine, but sometimes hangs up a
little.

Windows XP173  
 
 
Wesley





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 12:21:53 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red What does the defrag report say?

The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
(having two or more fragments).

Do you have at least 15% free space on the drive?


[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

? The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:EMail@HideDomain.com,
bob <EMail@HideDomain.com> hunted and pecked:
> I moved into new office with computers already in place. Running xp pro. I
> have tried to defrag but defrag will not remove all the red lines that
> indicate fragmented areas and go to blue like defrag usually does. It will
> derag only about half the bar and leave half in red. Can anyone tell me
> why, and can I fix this. The computer is working fine, but sometimes
> hangs up a little.

 
 
bob





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 13:40:28 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red Hi Wesley
disk capacity 14.25 GB
Free space 2.8 GB
Free Space 19%
Defrag report showed some files could not be defraged are *.zip and *.exe
files of some programs already in use. I could delete these if my programs
will run OK. Also, largest file is: \undo\Back.cab. What is this and can I
delete it?

Thanks
Bob

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

> What does the defrag report say?
>
> The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
> (having two or more fragments).
>
> Do you have at least 15% free space on the drive?
>
>
> [[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
> adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
> fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
> partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
> unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
> Defrag
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx
>
> [[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
> have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
> or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
> percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
> files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
> Help.]]
> Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp
>
> [[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
> see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
> (having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
> fragmented include:
>
> â?¢ The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
> Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
> defragment a volume.]]
> From...
> Files That You Cannot Defragment
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In news:EMail@HideDomain.com,
> bob <EMail@HideDomain.com> hunted and pecked:
> > I moved into new office with computers already in place. Running xp pro. I
> > have tried to defrag but defrag will not remove all the red lines that
> > indicate fragmented areas and go to blue like defrag usually does. It will
> > derag only about half the bar and leave half in red. Can anyone tell me
> > why, and can I fix this. The computer is working fine, but sometimes
> > hangs up a little.
>
>
 
 
mikkl





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 13:55:28 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:40:28 -0800, bob wrote:

> Hi Wesley
> disk capacity 14.25 GB
> Free space 2.8 GB
> Free Space 19%
> Defrag report showed some files could not be defraged are *.zip and *.exe
> files of some programs already in use. I could delete these if my programs
> will run OK. Also, largest file is: \undo\Back.cab. What is this and can I
> delete it?
>
> Thanks
> Bob

I have had good success using Power Defragmenter
(http://www.excessive-software.tk/) before using the XP defrag program.
Power Defragmenter is a free GUI for the Contig program from
sysinternals.com. Contig is a command line /file/ defragmenter. By using
this combination, each fragmented file is individually defragmented. The
XP defragmenter than only has to worry about optimizing the file locations
on the hard drive.

mikkl
 
 
Alias





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 14:10:23 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red bob wrote:

> Hi Wesley
> disk capacity 14.25 GB
> Free space 2.8 GB
> Free Space 19%
> Defrag report showed some files could not be defraged are *.zip and *.exe
> files of some programs already in use. I could delete these if my programs
> will run OK. Also, largest file is: \undo\Back.cab. What is this and can I
> delete it?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>
>
>>What does the defrag report say?
>>
>>The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
>>(having two or more fragments).
>>
>>Do you have at least 15% free space on the drive?
>>
>>
>>[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
>>adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
>>fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
>>partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
>>unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
>>Defrag
>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx
>>
>>[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
>>have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
>>or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
>>percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
>>files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
>>Help.]]
>>Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp
>>
>>[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
>>see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
>>(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
>>fragmented include:
>>
>>⤢ The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
>>Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
>>defragment a volume.]]
>>From...
>>Files That You Cannot Defragment
>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp
>>
>>--
>>Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>>Wes
>>MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>>In news:EMail@HideDomain.com,
>>bob <EMail@HideDomain.com> hunted and pecked:
>>
>>>I moved into new office with computers already in place. Running xp pro. I
>>>have tried to defrag but defrag will not remove all the red lines that
>>>indicate fragmented areas and go to blue like defrag usually does. It will
>>>derag only about half the bar and leave half in red. Can anyone tell me
>>>why, and can I fix this. The computer is working fine, but sometimes
>>>hangs up a little.
>>
>>

Try defragging it in Safe Mode.

Alias

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Plato





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 14:15:05 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red =?Utf-8?B?Ym9i?= wrote:
>
> disk capacity 14.25 GB
> Free space 2.8 GB
> Free Space 19%

One should always have at least 10 gig free on C: if running XP.



--
http://www.bootdisk.com/


 
 
Wesley





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 14:50:05 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red My whole drive is only 10 GB.

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:43dd2199$0$427$EMail@HideDomain.com,
Plato <|@|.|> hunted and pecked:
> =?Utf-8?B?Ym9i?= wrote:
>>
>> disk capacity 14.25 GB
>> Free space 2.8 GB
>> Free Space 19%
>
> One should always have at least 10 gig free on C: if running XP.
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
 
 
Ken





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 15:08:33 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red Plato wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?Ym9i?= wrote:
>>
>> disk capacity 14.25 GB
>> Free space 2.8 GB
>> Free Space 19%
>
> One should always have at least 10 gig free on C: if running XP.


Complete and utter nonsense, no matter how often you repeat it here.

--
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Please reply to the newsgroup


 
 
Talahasee





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 15:54:45 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:55:28 -0500, mikkl
<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:40:28 -0800, bob wrote:
>
>> Hi Wesley
>> disk capacity 14.25 GB
>> Free space 2.8 GB
>> Free Space 19%
>> Defrag report showed some files could not be defraged are *.zip and *.exe
>> files of some programs already in use. I could delete these if my programs
>> will run OK. Also, largest file is: \undo\Back.cab. What is this and can I
>> delete it?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>
>I have had good success using Power Defragmenter
>(http://www.excessive-software.tk/) before using the XP defrag program.
>Power Defragmenter is a free GUI for the Contig program from
>sysinternals.com. Contig is a command line /file/ defragmenter. By using
>this combination, each fragmented file is individually defragmented. The
>XP defragmenter than only has to worry about optimizing the file locations
>on the hard drive.
>
>mikkl

Thanks for the tip, Mik!

I just downloaded both programs-- as well as the entire page
from excessive. (I'm an "excessive" kinda guy).

I'm running Power Defragger now.

I just LOVE to learn/ find new stuff!

Tip o the hat to ya!


Good luck!


Tallahassee

 
 
Talahasee





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 15:56:20 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:10:23 +0100, Alias
<aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote:

>bob wrote:
>
>> Hi Wesley
>> disk capacity 14.25 GB
>> Free space 2.8 GB
>> Free Space 19%
>> Defrag report showed some files could not be defraged are *.zip and *.exe
>> files of some programs already in use. I could delete these if my programs
>> will run OK. Also, largest file is: \undo\Back.cab. What is this and can I
>> delete it?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What does the defrag report say?
>>>
>>>The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
>>>(having two or more fragments).
>>>
>>>Do you have at least 15% free space on the drive?
>>>
>>>
>>>[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
>>>adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for file
>>>fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
>>>partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
>>>unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
>>>Defrag
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx
>>>
>>>[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes that
>>>have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete unneeded files
>>>or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
>>>percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
>>>files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP Professional
>>>Help.]]
>>>Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp
>>>
>>>[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report to
>>>see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain fragmented
>>>(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
>>>fragmented include:
>>>
>>>â?¢ The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all files.
>>>Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to completely
>>>defragment a volume.]]
>>>From...
>>>Files That You Cannot Defragment
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp
>>>
>>>--
>>>Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>>Wes
>>>MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>In news:EMail@HideDomain.com,
>>>bob <EMail@HideDomain.com> hunted and pecked:
>>>
>>>>I moved into new office with computers already in place. Running xp pro. I
>>>>have tried to defrag but defrag will not remove all the red lines that
>>>>indicate fragmented areas and go to blue like defrag usually does. It will
>>>>derag only about half the bar and leave half in red. Can anyone tell me
>>>>why, and can I fix this. The computer is working fine, but sometimes
>>>>hangs up a little.
>>>
>>>
>
>Try defragging it in Safe Mode.

Interesting suggestion.

I've read it before, and I've heard it several times, but
never got Defrag to run in Safe Mode.

That's merely my penny.

(Don't have 2 cents)

wink


Tallahassee
>
>Alias
>
>Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
>Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.

 
 
mikkl





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 16:14:58 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0800, Talahasee wrote:

> I'm running Power Defragger now.
>
> I just LOVE to learn/ find new stuff!

I too love finding new stuff, particularly ones that work well.

Enjoy,

mikkl
 
 
Talahasee





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 17:36:17 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:14:58 -0500, mikkl
<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0800, Talahasee wrote:
>
>> I'm running Power Defragger now.
>>
>> I just LOVE to learn/ find new stuff!
>
>I too love finding new stuff, particularly ones that work well.
>
>Enjoy,
>
>mikkl

Yep. I discovered a neat little thing called "Reg Cleaner"
several years ago. I run it daily. Then I stumbled over
SpyBot, and LOVED it about a year ago. Found AdAware Pro,
and loved it. Found SpySweeper (the only thing I've bought
besides Windows XP Pro in awhile.

I was having driver problems, and stumbled upon Driver
Magic. Take that back about buying things! I bought Driver
Magic, and it ate my computer!

Then I found Driver Genius, and LOVE it! It gave me SEVERAL
new drivers, and it was free!

People who tell me they "simply don't download' are running
some piss-poor hardware/software.

There is just so much stuff out there to enhance your
computer!

Someone mentioned "Crap Cleaner" ("CCleaner") the other day.
Now I have that, and it is amazing!

I probably use 10 different things to clean maintain my
computer these days. (I like my system SQUEAKY clean).

And if it even begins to stutter-- mouse is erratic, a
keyboard error, that window won't open...


If it won't clean up in an hour or two, it's

Fdisk/format time!



Later!

Good luck!


Tallahassee

 
 
Alias





PostPosted: Sun Jan 29 18:17:06 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red Plato wrote:
> =?Utf-8?B?Ym9i?= wrote:
>
>>disk capacity 14.25 GB
>>Free space 2.8 GB
>>Free Space 19%
>
>
> One should always have at least 10 gig free on C: if running XP.
>
>
>

Puhlease, Plato, you should know better than that.

Alias

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RA





PostPosted: Mon Jan 30 07:42:25 CST 2006 Top

Windows XP >> defrag not removing red Talahasee wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:14:58 -0500, mikkl
> <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0800, Talahasee wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running Power Defragger now.
>>>
>>> I just LOVE to learn/ find new stuff!
>>
>> I too love finding new stuff, particularly ones that work well.
>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> mikkl
>
> Yep. I discovered a neat little thing called "Reg Cleaner"
> several years ago. I run it daily. Then I stumbled over
> SpyBot, and LOVED it about a year ago. Found AdAware Pro,
> and loved it. Found SpySweeper (the only thing I've bought
> besides Windows XP Pro in awhile.
>
> I was having driver problems, and stumbled upon Driver
> Magic. Take that back about buying things! I bought Driver
> Magic, and it ate my computer!
>
> Then I found Driver Genius, and LOVE it! It gave me SEVERAL
> new drivers, and it was free!
>
> People who tell me they "simply don't download' are running
> some piss-poor hardware/software.
>
> There is just so much stuff out there to enhance your
> computer!
>
> Someone mentioned "Crap Cleaner" ("CCleaner") the other day.
> Now I have that, and it is amazing!
>
> I probably use 10 different things to clean maintain my
> computer these days. (I like my system SQUEAKY clean).
>
> And if it even begins to stutter-- mouse is erratic, a
> keyboard error, that window won't open...
>
>
> If it won't clean up in an hour or two, it's
>
> Fdisk/format time!
>
>
>
> Later!
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Tallahassee

If you like Spysweeper, you will love Ewido. Since I have been using it,
SpyBot S&D and AdAware rarely find anything and I didn't renew SpySweeper.