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Gerry





PostPosted: Tue Jun 22 12:19:50 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN I'm to connect 2 XP pro computers without a hub using a
cat 5 crossover cable, but get a network cable unplugged
message on both ends. I've checked the cable. What do I
need to do?

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Papa





PostPosted: Tue Jun 22 12:19:50 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN In your setup you need to use Internet Connection Sharing (ICS), which is a
feature of W98SE and above. Such a setup requires that one computer be
"Host" and the other computer be "Client". Apparently you have a Network
Interface Card (NIC) installed in each computer, and one computer connected
to the other via the NICs with a Category 5 crossover cable. You also need a
second NIC in your Host computer in order to access the internet. It should
be connected to your modem. Be sure to enable ICS.

"erik" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
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> I'm to connect 2 XP pro computers without a hub using a
> cat 5 crossover cable, but get a network cable unplugged
> message on both ends. I've checked the cable. What do I
> need to do?


 
 
Richard





PostPosted: Tue Jun 22 19:20:50 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN Not all network cards support crossover cables. Borrow a hub, switch or
router and connect the two through it with straight network cable. If the
"cable unplugged" message goes away then you won't be able to connect with a
crossover cable.

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"erik" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote in message
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> I'm to connect 2 XP pro computers without a hub using a
> cat 5 crossover cable, but get a network cable unplugged
> message on both ends. I've checked the cable. What do I
> need to do?


 
 
Steve





PostPosted: Tue Jun 22 20:23:37 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN In article <1fd7d01c4586c$677c2d00$EMail@HideDomain.com>, "erik"
<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:
>I'm to connect 2 XP pro computers without a hub using a
>cat 5 crossover cable, but get a network cable unplugged
>message on both ends. I've checked the cable. What do I
>need to do?

Are you sure that it's a crossover cable, not a straight cable? How
have you checked it?
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Steve





PostPosted: Wed Jun 23 15:00:11 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN In article <EMail@HideDomain.com>,
"eriksnowgenius" <EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:
>To finally respond to all the helpful info;
>It's in the network setup wizard that the error message occurs, one has to select "ignore the unplugged cable" or something like that to proceed.
>
>The desktop PC has a USB connection to the DSL modem, I have tried 2 different NIC's in it with both the same response. When I was trying to set up this network previously using a router, the desktop pc seemed to have a spotty time connecting with the router, although it always claims (in Device Manager) that the NIC (either one) is working correctly.
>
>Internet connection sharing has been enabled correctly on both machines when I ran the network wizard (ignoring the unplugged cable.)
>
>The cable I wired myself, with a 586A standard on one end, 586B on the other. I checked the cable with a continuity meter for proper connections and for short circuits. I have wired a number of straight-thru cables in the past with good results, in one case there was an error but I found it with the continuity tester.
>Here's the cabling info I used:
>586A: 1= white-green, 2= green, 3=white-orange, 4=blue, 5=white-blue, 6=orange, 7=white-brown, 8=brown
>586B: 1=white-orange, 2=orange, 3=white-green, 4=blue, 5=white-blue, 6=green, 7=white-brown, 8=brown

A continuity tester can't determine whether a cable will work for
high-frequency Ethernet signals -- it can't tell whether the wire
pairing is right, and it only checks DC continuity.

The cabling info that you used is right. However, since both
computers say that the cable is unplugged, I'm sure that there's a
problem with the cable itself or with the computers' network adapters.
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erik





PostPosted: Fri Jun 25 21:45:12 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN
>-----Original Message-----
>In article
<EMail@HideDomain.com>,
>"eriksnowgenius"
<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:
>>To finally respond to all the helpful info;
>>It's in the network setup wizard that the error message
occurs, one has to select "ignore the unplugged cable" or
something like that to proceed.
>>
>>The desktop PC has a USB connection to the DSL modem, I
have tried 2 different NIC's in it with both the same
response. When I was trying to set up this network
previously using a router, the desktop pc seemed to have a
spotty time connecting with the router, although it always
claims (in Device Manager) that the NIC (either one) is
working correctly.
>>
>>Internet connection sharing has been enabled correctly on
both machines when I ran the network wizard (ignoring the
unplugged cable.)
>>
>>The cable I wired myself, with a 586A standard on one
end, 586B on the other. I checked the cable with a
continuity meter for proper connections and for short
circuits. I have wired a number of straight-thru cables in
the past with good results, in one case there was an error
but I found it with the continuity tester.
>>Here's the cabling info I used:
>>586A: 1= white-green, 2= green, 3=white-orange, 4=blue,
5=white-blue, 6=orange, 7=white-brown, 8=brown
>>586B: 1=white-orange, 2=orange, 3=white-green, 4=blue,
5=white-blue, 6=green, 7=white-brown, 8=brown
>
>A continuity tester can't determine whether a cable will
work for
>high-frequency Ethernet signals -- it can't tell whether
the wire
>pairing is right, and it only checks DC continuity.
>
>The cabling info that you used is right. However, since both
>computers say that the cable is unplugged, I'm sure that
there's a
>problem with the cable itself or with the computers'
network adapters.
>--
>Best Wishes,
>Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
>Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
>Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>.
>OK, I'll post this here even though its been some
time...it was the cable; I had the connector facing the
wrong way vis-a-vis the diagram I had, which was unclear
(the latch facing towards me instead of away.) It doesn't
matter on a straight cable, but a crossover cable won't
work like that. Thanks again, I finally did what I needed to.
 
 
Steve





PostPosted: Sat Jun 26 00:56:46 CDT 2004 Top

Windows XP Network >> 2 computer LAN In article <21e6601c45b27$9a707550$EMail@HideDomain.com>, "erik"
<EMail@HideDomain.com> wrote:
>>>The cable I wired myself, with a 586A standard on one end, 586B on
>>>the other. I checked the cable with a continuity meter for proper
>>>connections and for short circuits. I have wired a number of straight-thru
>>cables in the past with good results, in one case there was an error but
>>I found it with the continuity tester.
>>>Here's the cabling info I used:
>>>586A: 1= white-green, 2= green, 3=white-orange, 4=blue, 5=white-blue, 6=orange, 7=white-brown, 8=brown
>>>586B: 1=white-orange, 2=orange, 3=white-green, 4=blue, 5=white-blue, 6=green, 7=white-brown, 8=brown
>>
>>A continuity tester can't determine whether a cable will work for
>>high-frequency Ethernet signals -- it can't tell whether the wire
>>pairing is right, and it only checks DC continuity.
>>
>>The cabling info that you used is right. However, since both
>>computers say that the cable is unplugged, I'm sure that there's a
>>problem with the cable itself or with the computers' network adapters.
>
>OK, I'll post this here even though its been some
>time...it was the cable; I had the connector facing the
>wrong way vis-a-vis the diagram I had, which was unclear
>(the latch facing towards me instead of away.) It doesn't
>matter on a straight cable, but a crossover cable won't
>work like that. Thanks again, I finally did what I needed to.

You're welcome. Thanks for reporting the solution. I've made my
share of mistakes in network wiring, so I understand.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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